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I am going to back up a little and start at verse 9. There was a point that I intended to make at the last meeting that I did not make, so I want to touch on it now. This is verse 9 of chapter 18.
REVELATION 18:9
9. And the kings of the earth who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her shall bewail her and lament for her when they shall see the smoke of her burning. KJV
The point that I did not make is that I looked up the word smoke in Webster's, and the definition of smoke is; a suspension of particles of carbon in gas. The smoke that results from her burning I am suggesting to you is the glorified body. You may recall that a couple of messages back when we talked about the natural man being beaten small as dust, we said that the Lord was beating the body and the soul small as dust and that he was going to inhabit, that he was going to rearrange the dust, mix everything together and inhabit it, and that would be our glorified body.
When the kings of the earth saw the smoke of her burning, they saw the suspension of her being beaten small as dust in the gas which typifies the Spirit of God. I am going to read the Alternate Translation for verse 9 of chapter 18.
9. And the carnal minds of men who have committed fornication with her, with the harlot, without restraint, shall cry out loud and beat their breasts in outward displays of grief and mourning for her when they shall see her in her glorified form, which has resulted from the severe trials of her refinement. AT
The implication here is that they are going to be upset when they see her in her glorified form because all they are going to be able to see is the horror of her trials and tribulations; and because of the darkness of their minds, even though they see her in her glorified state, they are going to be wailing for the old ways and for the carnal ways. I do not know if anyone else here could say amen, but I certainly have that problem. No one wants to go on to what they do not know; there is just a tremendous fear of the unknown in most people. I know I just got prayer for that tonight. Even though you know that God is with you and that all things work for the good for those that love the Lord, it is a fear of change and that is what was going on here with the kings of the earth.
Even though, they could even see her moving into her glorified body, if their eyes would have been open, they could have seen it, but they were looking with their carnal eyes, and all that they saw was the trial. They did not see the glory coming out of the trial and the result of it was that they wailed out loud and they beat their breasts in outward displays of grief and mourning as life as they have known it came down and collapsed around them. I am sure that most believers moving on God that have moved into this realm of severe trials can say amen to this. We just feel grief as you see your life collapsing around you. Even though you have had enough trials and enough victories to know that whatever comes out of it is always better.
When God is moving in your life, the next thing that replaces what you lost is always better, and you are still mourn and wail over what is that part of your soul life that is dying. I guess it is just a part of being a natural man, and thank God that He delivers us and catches us up higher anyway. Hallelujah. Verse 10, Chapter 18;
REVELATION 18:10
10. Standing far away because they were alarmed by the violence of her labor unto childbirth, saying, how terrible that extremely large soul Babylon, the place of confusion, where their queen thinks she is a man, that powerful place where the peoples of the earth dwell, for in the season when the light is revealed have the plagues of the Lord appeared in her life to refine her unto the redemption that is in Christ Jesus. AT
They stood far away from her. How many of you have ever seen a person in great trial and seen believers who are enjoying some prosperity or freedom from severe oppression and they run from the person, they run from that person, they do not want to be near you if you are under severe trials, they are afraid it is going to get on them. They are afraid the trial is going to get on them, they are afraid the demons are going to get on them, but this is all wrong thinking. If it is God burning that person, He is going to get on you whether associate with them or not, and the chances are if you run from them instead of having mercy on them, He is going to get on you real fast, real fast.
I remember you we are supposed to strengthen the weak in the body of Christ. We are not supposed to take on ungodly burdens but we are to seek God as to how we are to deal with people that need strengthening as to what He requires of us and He will not give us more than we can bear.
If the whole body of Christ agrees in one in supporting the weak, it will not be an ungodly burden on anybody. I have seen most Christians flee. They flee from the highly demonized. They do not want to look at them. They do not want to deal with them. They do not want to hear their problems. They do not want to pray deliverance over them. This is what it is; it is a manifestation of the natural man.
Someone came to me a couple of months ago, they called me, came to my home, they wanted deliverance and what they wanted prayer from was really filthy spirits, not that the person was filthy but the spirits on them were filthy. They were in desperate need of deliverance. It was not too pleasant for me.
This is just the way the natural man reacts to ugly things. The answer to this is to not live out the natural man, we have to live out of the Spirit of God and the Spirit of God is God anoints you casts out demons out of people that come to you for help.
If your natural man is repelled, it is just too bad, you still do what God would do in that situation, by the power of His Spirit. Glory to God, and if you cannot do the righteous thing in any given situation then you need deliverance because your soul man is stronger than your spirit man. You have to repent, you have to confess that and repent and ask God for deliverance. Hallelujah. We are in verse 10 of chapter 18, and we are saying that carnal men will stand away from believers that are in the fire, even though that fire is unto the childbirth of the Christ appearing in them, they do not care, they do not want the pain, they do not want even look upon it, they call it terrible, and they do not want to believe that these trials are of God.
Then we are told that in the season when the light is revealed, in that lifetime when Christ is revealed to you, in that lifetime the plagues of the Lord have appeared upon her. The revelation of Christ will bring judgment upon your soul. Most people get all mixed up, they read the book of Revelation and they believe it is the judgments for the heathen, but the name of the book is the Revelation of the Lord Jesus Christ, and where is the Lord Jesus Christ revealed? He is revealed in the souls of men.
When the Lord Jesus Christ is being revealed in you, this is going to be your experience, all of the plagues that are listed in the book of the Revelation of the Lord Jesus Christ; they are for you in the hour that the light is revealed to you. Hallelujah. Glory to God; and the end of the trials and tribulations and the plagues of God is Christ in you the hope of glory, redemption, eternal life. Hallelujah, Verse 11; I would like to make a comment on that, I think I read it first. Verse 11, Chapter 18 of the book of Revelations;
11. And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her, for no man buyeth their merchandise anymore. KJV
I would like to review with you who the merchants of the earth are. I have suggested to you that they are the spiritual life passing through the realm of time. I am going to read to you an Alternate Translation of chapter 18, verse 3 for this purpose of review.
3. For she has involved all of the races of the earth in her passionate fornications and their carnal minds have fornicated with her. And the spiritual life passing through the earth has become increased with carnal thoughts instead of developing spiritually because of her arrogant illegal spiritual power. AT
What we are saying here is that we are spirit, we have existed in the realm of the spirit with God from before the foundation of the earth, and when we appear in the realm of appearance, we possess a soul and we live in a body. It is for the purpose of exercising our spiritual beings while they are under the pressure of being surrounded by the soul which is sin. The ultimate result is that our spirit man must rise up and rule the soul and the body that surrounds him.
The only man that I know that has accomplished this to date is the Lord Jesus Christ. If you have sinned once, if you sin once, you are failing to rule the soul and the body that surrounds you and your spirit man needs additional exercise in accordance with the will of the Lord Jesus Christ who is overseeing our spiritual maturing.
Spiritual life passes through the earth. It enters into the earth when we are born and when our soul and body dies; it passes out of the earth. The merchants are those who travel, who pass through, and what they are passing through is the realm of time in which they appear in a soul and in a body.
The word waxed rich which means increased in outward possessions is referring to the fact that the spiritual life passing through the earth has failed to rule the soul realm and has indeed fornicated with her thoughts and produced the fruit of that fornication and become waxed rich or increased in carnal thoughts. The more fruit that you produce of the carnal mind which is demons, the more difficult it is for you to rule as a spirit man, because what you are doing is strengthening the soul realm, and you are surrounding yourself, permitting yourself to be surrounded and layered in with demons which are the thoughts of the carnal mind. You are making it even harder for yourself to live out of Christ. The Lord seems to be changing the format. We seem to be taking questions as we go along. Are there any questions before we go on? We are up to Verse 11;
11. And the merchants of the earth, which is the spiritual life passing through the earth, shall weep and mourn over her, over the soul, for no man buyeth their merchandise anymore. KJV
The word buyeth is Strong's #59 and it means to purchase, to redeem. It is from a root #58 that means to gather as at a public market, and it is a kin to #1453 which means a collection of something, such as collecting one's faculties, and thus it means to rouse from sleep, to rouse from a lying position, or to rouse or recover from disease or death. It means to lift up. What we are talking about is spiritual elevation. To buy means to go from the soul realm to the realm of the spirit. It means to increase; it means to improve. We know that the soul realm is typified by lying down, and the spirit realm is typified by standing up. 2 Peter 2:1 says;
2 PETER 2:1
1. But there were false prophets also among the people, even denying the Lord that bought them. KJV
Jesus Christ has purchased us with a price. I am sure we all know that Scripture, but do we know what it means? He has purchased us. He has raised us up from the realm of the soul into the realm of His Spirit. 1 Corinthians 7:23;
1 CORINTHIANS 7:23
23. Ye were bought with a price, be not ye the servants of man. KJV
Jesus Christ has raised you from the realm of the soul into the realm of the spirit, do not fornicate with the carnal mind; do not think the thoughts of natural man, because you now have the power to resist them.
Since Christ Jesus has bought you, and we have the mind of Christ available to us if we just ask, I pray that prayer all of the time. Lord what is your mind in this situation, how would you see this situation? What is your evaluation of this situation, how would you react in this situation? If you pray a prayer like that, He is sure to answer you. If you have Christ, there is no reason for you to react as a natural man, just cry out to God, He is there, cry out to God. Revelation 5:9;
REVELATION 5:9
9. Thou art worthy to take the book, for thou was slain and has redeemed us to God by thy blood. KJV
That word redeemed is the same Greek word translated bought. For you were slain and have bought us unto God by thy blood. Revelation 3:4;
REVELATION 3:4
4. And no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty four thousand which were redeemed from the earth. KJV
That word redeemed is the same word translated bought. There were a hundred and forty four thousand bought out of the earth realm and these were redeemed or bought from among men. He bought you, He took you out of where you were and He took you home with Him, the realm of the spirit. For those of you, I am not sure everybody here knows it but anybody listening to the tape, the reason, you are still thinking carnal thoughts is that although this is a spiritual fact, it has not yet been worked out in your own soul.
The reality of it exists, it can happen. Submit yourself to God and let Him do the work. Before Jesus Christ of Nazareth died on the cross, there was no way for you to be raised up from a natural man to a spiritual man. The way was not made. The path was not opened. The path is now open, submit yourself to God and He will do the work.
We are talking about the word buyeth, it is Strong's #59 and it means to gather as at a public market. We have to find out what we are gathering. What are we gathering? Webster's says the word gather means to bring together, to collect, to accumulate, to place in order or readiness; to assemble, to sum it up, to bring together the parts of. This sounds very much to me like the concept of the cosmos that we have talked about. We have said that every man is a cosmos, and a cosmos is an orderly arrangement, and we have said that our body is in a specific step pattern. Everybody's heart is in the same place, everybody's lungs are in the same place, everybody's arms, legs, eyes, nose, and mouth are in the same place, unless the person is deformed.
There is a set pattern for your body. There is also a set pattern for your soul. We have talked about this. Our soul is made of many elements, and they are in a specific order. We have talked about it. We have talked about the fact that the order that they are supposed to be in is Christ on top and Satan on the bottom, but that order has gotten messed up. The moral order that our soul is supposed to be in so that we can have life has been reversed. Satan is on top in the natural man, in the unsaved man, and Christ is on the bottom, and the result of it is, is that we are dying.
Those of us that are not being restored in Christ Jesus are dying. It would be as if to say, someone took your heart out and put it up where your eyes are. Your body cannot live in that condition. Sometimes there are children born in a deformed condition and their heart is in the wrong place and they die. There is a natural type for every spiritual truth.
Children are born with their stomach in the wrong place, they die; they cannot live. They live if their arms are in the wrong place. I have seen children with no arms and their hands just grow out of their shoulders, you can live, but if one of your major organs is in the wrong place, your body cannot function. There is a spiritual order and we are dying because it is in the wrong place, it is out of order; out spiritual being, the spiritual makeup of our soul is in the wrong order and the result of that is that the human race is dying. Now I want to touch on the word merchandise. We are dealing with verse 11;
11. And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over the soul, for no man buyeth their merchandise anymore. KJV
What kind of merchandise? The merchants are spiritual life passing through the earth. What are they selling? The word merchandise is Strong's #1117, and it means the lading or freight of a ship, cargo. In the Greek Old Testament it means the load of a beast of burden.
Spiritual life is passing through the earth and it is carrying a cargo with it. This particular chapter in the book of Revelation is talking about the sea and ships. The sea represents the realm of the soul and the ship is a vehicle which moves through the sea. The ship is a vehicle which moves through the sea.
The soul is likened in the Scripture to the sea. When I was newly saved, God used to give me dreams very frequently of a sea and a sailboat moving along the sea and three or four people on the sailboats, it was out in the open, and they looked like almost like they were zombies, they had no expression on their faces and their eyes were open wide and they looked like they were in great torment and they were just sailing along the sea in these sailboats. How many of you know that when the spirit is alive and active in you, He will give you dreams that you will not understand when you are young in Christ. It is just like you look at your little baby and you say, goo, goo, do not put that in your mouth. The baby does not know what you mean, but you talk to him anyway.
God talks to us even we cannot understand what he is saying, and eventually we understand him. He gave me these dreams frequently and I did not know what they meant, these haunted men with haunted eyes sitting motionless on these boats moving through the sea.
The sea represents the realm of the soul and the ship is the vehicle in which we are that is moving through the sea. What is the vehicle that lets us get around in the realm of appearance? It is the body, so the ship is the body. The ship has a cargo, and the cargo, does anybody want to guess at that? That one is a little tough. It is the spiritual life of God, it is the spiritual life.
The soul is the sea and we are in the realm of the soul, the vehicle in which we travel through it is the body and the cargo that is being carried in the body, in the ship or in the body is the spiritual life of God, and that is the true nature of our spiritual substance. We are the spiritual life of God. To buy merchandise means to cause life on the earth to take form. What is the merchandise that the merchants are bringing? They are bringing their spiritual life and when they fornicate with the harlot, they are producing the carnal mind and they are appearing in the realm of appearance.
Let me go on with this. Jesus buys us with His soul life, with His blood which is free from sin. He purchases us and we appear in the earth in His image. When Jesus buys us, when He takes us out from the realm of the soul, in all of the teaching that we have had, this is the mind of Christ, and this is the realm of appearance, and when we appear, and we think the thoughts of Christ, and we speak the words of Christ, and we do the deeds of Christ, He has bought us, we are appearing in the earth. Our soul has been gathered together and taking the form of Christ. He has bought us, He has gathered us together. He has gathered together the elements of our spiritual being and when we appear on the earth, in our thoughts, words, and deeds, we appear as Christ. When the living soul gathers us together, we appear on the earth by our thoughts, words and deeds as a living soul.
The one that gathers us is the one that we reflect when we appear in the earth. They are gathering together, spiritual substance. It would be in the realm of appearance, it would be as if to say, I want to make a man, and here is a heart and here is a lung, and here is a leg, and here is an eye, and I am going to put it all together and I am going to make a man. We know that both God incarnates us in the earth, and we know that the living soul can incarnate in the earth. What we are talking about here is a deep revelation of how men appear on the earth. There is a literal spiritual happening whereby either Christ or the living soul gathers together spiritual substance and puts it all together and the result of it is that He appears. Going on with Verse 11;
11. And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her, for no man buyeth their merchandise anymore. KJV
This is talking about her, the harlot; no man gathers together her spiritual elements anymore. No man gathers together her spiritual elements anymore. When her spiritual elements are gathered together, the formation of the soul of man appears. When they buy her merchandise, what they are doing is gathering together these spiritual elements that are going to cause the living soul to appear. This is what happens in the realm of the spirit, the harlot typifying the living soul says, I will return to my house, I will appear on the face of the earth again.
Let me give you this point now. How many of you remember how things are brought to pass in the spirit? If I want to make a chair in the natural, I will go and get some wood and I will nail it together and I will have a chair. We are a spiritual being with spiritual power and we want something to appear, how do we do it? Does anybody remember, you speak it forth, and the molecules rise up and form it? This is how God formed the creation.
He said, Let there be, and the basic elements of the earth were. He said, let there be the earth, and the basic elements of the earth rose up and formed the hard part of the creation. When the living soul said, I will return to my house, this is what happened, he is a spiritual entity, he has spiritual power; he is the prince of the power of the air, right? God has given him authority. He says, I will return to my house, I am going to appear in a certain vessel on the face of the earth and the molecules rise up and a manifestation of the living soul is formed, and in the realm of appearance, we have a baby. A Baby is born. He wills it; I will appear on the face of the earth and he buys or gathers together the spiritual substance that results in the birth of a baby in the realm of appearance. I am going to read you an Alternate Translation of Verse 11;
11. And the spirits passing through the earth shall cry and mourn over the living soul because they think there is no longer anyone that can give them form in the realm of appearance. Their minds are so overcome with carnal thoughts; they cannot understand that they will take form not only again, but permanently in Christ Jesus. AT
The living soul is the one that causes life to appear on the face of the earth and we are on a cycle of death. Babies are born, people die, babies are born and people are dying. It is the living soul that is incarnating life, that is causing babies to be born that will eventually die. When the mind of the carnal man sees her coming to her end, they moan and they wail because they say, we will never be able to take form in the earth again. They cannot see the spiritual reality that says Jesus Christ has bought them and Jesus Christ has gathering you and when you take, when you appear in the face of the earth because Jesus Christ has gathered you, you will not die, you will not die.
When the living soul buys you, and gathers you and forms you and you appear in the realm of appearance, you die. When Jesus Christ gathers you and you appear in the realm of appearance, you will live forever. I will read it again, Verse 11, Alternate Translation;
11. And the spirits passing through the earth shall cry and mourn over the living soul because they think that when she dies, and they see her burning, that there is no longer anyone that can give them form in the realm of appearance. Their minds are so overcome with carnal thoughts; they cannot understand that they will take form not only again, but permanently in Christ Jesus. AT
When we read all of these Scriptures that Jesus has bought us with a price; that is what it is saying. He has chosen to gather the elements of our spiritual being and put us together in a form that is going to live forever.
Right now Adam is the one who is causing us to take form. We know that God said go forth and multiply; and Adam is reproducing in his own likeness and in his own image and the likeness and the image of Adam is this, Satan rules, the carnal mind is one with Eve, Satan, the carnal mind and Eve are ruling, and the human spirit is captive, Adam is down here powerless and in the realm of appearance we have what? We have death. If you know anybody that is gathered spiritually, that is put together spiritually, by Adam, he has got to die. Everybody I know fits into that category. He has got to die, why? It is because he is put together, he is gathered wrong. His heart is on top of his head. You cannot live that way.
There is a new man in the earth, glory to God, and at the same time that this is existing, at the very same time that this is existing, there is a new man in the earth whose name is Christ and he is the process of changing the order and of gathering men that will appear in the realm of appearance who will live forever; for the sole purpose that he has the authority to gather them in the correct order. Hallelujah, glory to God. Does anyone want to ask me a question on that at this point? Ephesians 1:10 says;
EPHESIANS 1:10
10. That in the dispensation of the fullness of times, he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are in the earth, even in Him. KJV
10. That in the dispensation of the fullness of times, he might gather together in one, one spiritual man, many members, all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth, even in Him. KJV
We are now talking about permanent life; appearance in the realm of time that will not corrupt and die. Romans 6:23;
ROMANS 6:23
23. For the wages of sin is death...
Sin is a state of being, it is a person whose name is Satan. Life is a state of being, he is a person; his name is Christ. Webster's says that the word wage means recompense reward, that which you reap. The wages that Satan reaps when he gathers in the realm of appearance is death. He has paid off his death. Jesus Christ is the gift of eternal life. Two men gathering and reaping in the earth working together with spiritual components; but I will be honest with you; I cannot even imagine what they look like. I will just tell you again so that we can understand better. Our natural example is a superior being in a workshop saying I am going to make a man, here a leg, here is an arm, here is an eye, let us put it together, I want to appear in the realm of appearance. That is happening in the realm of the soul. I do not know what the components look like.
There are two men gathering in this hour, Adam and Christ. When Adam gathers, he produces death and when Christ gathers, He produces eternal life. When they both gather, a human being appears in the realm of appearance, born unto death, and the other unto life. Romans 1:27 says;
ROMANS 1:27
27. And likewise the men leaving the natural use of the woman, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error, which was meet. KJV
The recompense is the fruit of the Spirit you are copulating with. We have talked about this, that spiritual offspring remains within, spiritual offspring remains within. The fruit of Satan is the carnal mind and his demons. When God gathers the fruit that is produced is Christ and the fruits and of His Spirit, love, peace, grace, mercy, truth, and these will live forever.
Gathering spiritual elements, these beings are so superior to us they think it and it appears. They will the appearance of a human being on the face of the earth and someone is born.
He is unable to gather men together permanently, we are talking about Satan now, He is unable to gather men together permanently, or even give them life, he gathers them temporarily, for this life's existence and his authority is the authority of the living soul. John 14:30 says;
JOHN 14:30
30. Hereafter I will not talk much with you, for the prince of this world cometh and has nothing in me. KJV
He is the prince of this world. Satan has spiritual authority in this world. He is not dead, he is not on another planet, he reigns in the minds of men because when he gathers and he causes a man to appear in the realm of appearance, he is indeed within the midst of them. He is within the midst of them, He gathers around Himself. Ephesians 2:2;
EPHESIANS 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: KJV
Satan has authority in this realm to gather, he has authority to cause men to appear in the realm of appearance, he has the authority to cause men to be born and his authority is given to him by the Lord God Himself. When Adam was told to go forth and multiply across the face of the earth. It is the intention of the Lord Jesus Christ to add Himself to every human vessel on the face of the earth, thus delivering him from death and bringing him unto life by the addition of the life of the Lord Jesus Christ, who will then bring everything into the right proper order.
Christ gathers permanently by the authority of his sinless soul life. Are there any questions at this point?
COMMENT: question is inaudible.
PASTOR VITALE: The Lord God said to Adam, which was, Satan is the fallen Adam. God said to Adam, Go forth and multiply across the face of the earth. In order for Adam to do that, the Lord had to remove Himself from Adam because God is a preserver, and Adam was a cell that was going to divide and he was going to become a many- membered body. When God removed Himself, He had a place somebody in charge of the creation. The person that he put in charge of the creation was Adam, but Adam was seduced by Satan and Satan took over the creation. Satan is the one that took it over completely. What he did was he sent Adam down to the bottom. This was what the creation looked like on the board when God left.
He put Adam in charge, and Satan was Adam's unconscious mind, and he was bound, he could not do any damage. Eve was down here, and God said, do not let Satan out because if you do he is going to fertilize Eve and it is going to be disastrous. It was Adam's unconscious mind which was wicked. Adam although he had no power, the word of God, the law of God had been spoken to him, he knew what was wrong, but it did not give him power, he just knew what was right and wrong, and the wickedness of Satan overtook him. He was tested and he fell because he did not have the power to keep the law.
What happened was that everything turned around and Satan married Eve and they produced the carnal mind, and the next circle was Satan ruling as god, with the carnal mind and Eve up here and Adam down here powerless. Satan is in control of the creation, and he is doing what God told him to do, he is multiplying across the face of the earth only he has no intention whatsoever of turning the vessels over to God.
God's command to Adam was, multiply across the face of the earth and then I am going to add myself to every vessel that appears. Satan is doing this for himself, and he is living his life and his lust out of every human being that appears on the face of the earth. God has permitted it for a season because even though it is Satan that is incarnating instead of Adam and Satan is working his lusts out through all of us, God still wants the certain allotted number of vessels and then He is going to inhabit them anyway, but Satan is at war with Him trying to stop Him.
God is still going to inhabit all of the vessels and God is permitting him to do it, for the specific purpose of having a many-membered body in the realm of appearance. If Adam did not fall, God would have inhabited every cell of the body without a fight, but because Adam did fall, God is going to have to inhabit every cell of his body with a fight, but He is going to inhabit every cell of His body.
I believe that evolution is a reality. I believe Darwin's theory of evolution is a perversion. Like everything else, every perversion has to be based on some spiritual truth, and I believe that evolution is a reality. I do not believe that man was a monkey, and he became a man. I believe that we are evolving spiritually and there is a process going on in the earth, and at some point in time, there are men that appear in the earth, the Scripture calls them in the next verse of Revelation in verse 12, the Scripture calls them beast, and they do not have the root of Christ, no root.
Somewhere along the line they appear again, and this time the Scripture calls them sheep, and they have the root, they keep on going, and then finally they appear on the face of the earth, and the Scripture calls them horses. At this point when they are horses, this root has been prospered and they joined to God. I am going to go into this in more depth.
That is the size of it, you know if anyone does not like what I am saying, I just cannot hold it back anymore, God just will not let me hold it back anymore, and I guess I am just going to be very bold, I have been running for months. This is the size of it. There is a spiritual reality that is the truth upon which reincarnation is based as lie. Reincarnation is a lie, but it is based on a spiritual truth, I call it multiple incarnations in Christ Jesus. The personality is not resurrected, the personality dies when the body dies, but the spiritual beings that we are move in and out of the realm of time. The Scripture teaches that it is on a cycle. We have touched on this when we did the study on the creation and it talked about, the Scripture talked about grass being a perennial, I believe the word is perennial, where the root under the ground stays alive but the green part on top of the ground dies, it passes away, and when the next season for it comes, a shoot of grass goes up again.
What we are saying is the spiritual life cannot be seen. Spiritual life from the realm of appearance cannot be seen. We are doing backwards. This is the realm of appearance up here. Spiritual life moves through the realm of appearance in a cycle, spring, winter, summer, fall, and in the springtime a spiritual life, a blade of grass appears or a man. In the springtime a spiritual life, this spiritual life appears on the earth as a man. In the wintertime he dies and leaves the earth.
This spiritual life still exists though. It is real and this is what it looks like, God is up here in the realm of the spirit, and He has created the realm of time, He has literally hung a ball down from the realm of the spirit and He calls it the realm of time. From up here in the realm of the spirit are God's spiritual sons, spiritual life, and they take journeys. The Scripture talks a lot about journeys, this is what it is talking about, they descend into the realm of time, and when they enter into the realm of time, a man is born.
They continue on their journey, this is an infant, they continue on their journey, they enter into old age, and they pass out of the realm of appearance. Then somewhere, I do not have all of the details, somewhere along the line, they go back up here, they go back to the Father, when we die, the soul goes to the earth, and the spirit goes back to the Father. Somewhere along the line, God says, okay, here you go again, another journey. This is the seed of the spirit. When they appear in the earth, it is the summertime. The summertime is when life appears in the earth, spring and summer life appears on the earth. Down here as the person gets older, it turns in the fall and winter. In the wintertime life dies, plant life dies in the wintertime does it not?
I just want to put this on the message, I do not believe in reincarnation, I do not believe that the personality is resurrected, but I believe that Jesus clearly taught that there is a cycle of spiritual life and when the Sadducees tried to trick Him with their question about the woman that married seven brothers and all of the brothers died, and they said, in the resurrection who is she going to be with? They were talking about the resurrection of the personality.
If the personalities of the seven brothers are resurrected who is she going to be married to? Jesus said, you do err, because you do not know the Scriptures and you do not know the power of God. The personality is not resurrected. There is something called spiritual life, I would not know how to identify it apart from the personality myself, God has not shown me that, but we are spiritual life, and when we pass through this cycle, this personality will never live again.
It has nothing to do with it, your personality will never live again, but the spiritual substance that you are, will continue on until the final generation in which you will receive the life of the ages, eternal life. The day is coming, they keep making these journeys through the realm of time and then the day comes that you come back in here and that is it, you receive eternal life in the realm of time. You will receive a soul and a body that will never perish.
That is what happens, but when you reach this place that you have eternal life, you will have the power to leave the realm of time at will and return to the Father, and that is typified by the sons of Zadok. I am not going to get into that right now, it is just too much. Does anyone have a question on this? God has been really pressing me, I have been hiding from this and running from this for months, and now it is on a message and I am making it public, and I am just asking anybody hears it, and you get upset, just please pray about it, it is the truth. I am telling you it is the truth, and do not panic. Do not panic because you have heard that reincarnation is demonic. Reincarnation is demonic, it is ungodly, but do not reject the truth of God because this might sound like it. It is all over the Scriptures brethren, it is all over the Scriptures. Life is a cycle. The Lord Jesus Christ is in total control of your life, of your spiritual life and what He is doing is He is teaching you to rule when you are surrounded by the flesh.
When you learn to rule the flesh, your life will not be miserable. Your life is miserable because your soul is overtaking your spirit. What this spiritual life is doing is that it is learning to live in the flesh without being corrupted unto sin.
What happens is, when we fail and we are corrupted unto sin, the body dies and we go home to the Father, just like happened in the flood. The Lord wiped out the bodies, He wiped out the souls and He gathered the spiritual man unto Himself. He said, you did not make it, look at the mess you made. I put you in the flesh, I incarnated you, and you are doing all of these terrible wicked things, and He killed their bodies and He killed their souls and He took His spiritual sons home.
In due season, He said, well we will try it again, okay children, get ready, jump in the water again, and this is what is going on and it is going to keep on going until we appear in the realm of appearance and the flesh does not rule us. He is with us and He is giving us experiences that are strengthening us and for the purpose of our being strengthened, He gives us a personality when we are in the realm of appearance. The personality is not resurrected. This is going to be very upsetting to a lot of people. I have heard preachers say, yes, you will see aunt Gerdy when you get to heaven. No you will not see aunt Gerdy when you get to heaven, this is grow up time, I am very sorry if that upsets you, but once aunt Gerdy dies, she is gone.
The only thing that exists is the spiritual life that aunt Gerdy was wrapped around. If you cannot receive it, put it on the shelf, you know, pray about it, and put it on the shelf, do not get upset, do not get upset. Let me get to this question.
COMMENT: The question is inaudible.
PASTOR VITALE: I am trying to make it simple for everybody. The question is what is going to the Father mean. There are different ways of explaining things on different levels. God give me wisdom to put these two concepts together. When I say the spiritual life goes to the Father, let me put it this way: we have a man over here on the face of the earth, and he has a son, and this guy dies, and I say the spiritual life goes to the Father. Where is the Father? Is He not in here? He is in the son, right? The spiritual life of the ancestor; we had an original ancestor and the original ancestor has never left the earth. He goes from one vessel to the next. Where is the original ancestor, the father, where is the original ancestor right now? He is in the son. Did I answer your question? It did not change, it is just that this is, do not worry about this, God has everything under control, you are a spiritual son of God that is being exercised to overcome what is afflicting you right now, and you shall indeed overcome, for God has ordained from before the foundations of the earth that you shall be a son of God, and you shall overcome.
COMMENT: The comment is inaudible.
PASTOR VITALE: Okay, well then put it on the shelf, you know, put it on the shelf because, God tell me what to say to this woman. You are thinking with your carnal mind Xxxx and I do not know how to comfort you, I do not want to rebuke you, I do not know how to comfort you but what is happening to you is that you are thinking; remember when we just read about the Scriptures that they see the burning of the living soul and their mourning and they are wailing and they do not see that Christ is coming forth in them? That is exactly what is happening to you Xxxx, you are frightened because you have had a lot of pain, but you cannot see that Christ is coming forth as a result of the pain. Can you understand what I am saying to you? God is with you, God is in full control of everything, and you have had a pretty rough time, but that does not mean that God is not God. I am sorry if I upset you.
I have to keep on going, because this is a message. Did you have a question?
COMMENT: The question is inaudible.
PASTOR VITALE: It is the same spirit; see it is God's purpose to appear in the realm of appearance and the way that He has chosen to appear in the realm of appearance is to wrap His self with sin filled flesh. We have teaching that when you want to reveal God; you have to contrast Him to the opposite. In the realm of appearance, you contrast the light. You cannot see light if you do not have darkness. In the realm of the soul, you cannot see righteousness if you do not have unrighteousness.
The way God is appearing in this realm of appearance is by wrapping Himself in sin filled flesh. He is wearing sin like a garment, but He has to rule the sin. The spiritual life of God is deep inside of man and He is supposed to be ruling in him in accordance with the book of Revelation with a rod of iron and not fornicating with him so that he dies. The spirit, the son of God, the spiritual son of God, He is passing on these journeys through the earth and He is being exercised until He get to the point that He can rule the flesh. The only one that I know of that has done it so far is Christ. He ruled His flesh; He nailed His soul to Satan. He crucified Satan.
The soul never comes back. The spirit keeps cycling through the earth until He reaches a point that He is not overcome by the flesh, because when He is overcome by the flesh, He dies. When He fornicates with the flesh, His body and His soul dies and the Father says, alright come on home son, you did not make it.
COMMENT: The question is inaudible.
PASTOR VITALE: There are only two men in the earth and the living is Christ and the dead is Adam. We have to stop thinking of us as individuals, we are not, we are cells in a many membered body. He is going to judge the quick and the dead, and He is going to judge the dead which is Adam and the judgment is that he is going to be consumed and He is going to judge the quick or the living, and He is going to find Him righteous and He is going to give Him eternal life.
I am just going to say it one more time. I hope whoever is listening to this message still has it on. I do not believe in reincarnation, the personality is not resurrected. God has spiritual sons whom He has purposed to appear with Him in the earth and the earth is sin. Christ is wearing sin as a garment, and these spiritual sons are taking journeys through the earth being exercised unto the point that they can rule with a rod of iron wherewith they will not be overcome by the sin. It is very easy to find out when they fornicate with their carnal mind, they die, their body dies and their soul dies.
The day is coming that Christ is going to have a many-membered body of which, Lord willing we are members. These members will appear in the earth and will rule the carnal mind so that we do not fornicate with her and at that point we will receive eternal life and the life of the ages.
COMMENT: From what I had understood about reincarnation was that the personality did come back. I know people that hypnotize people and they said the person was different.
PASTOR VITALE: We are going to let another member of the congregation answer this question.
COMMENT: What I was taught when I was studying it was that the whole point is you want to reach Christ consciousness, this is what it was, and it was your consciousness that was to be elevated more and more through each life experience and if you had to experience being a male and whatever in a male body, well then that is what you had to experience so that you could evolve more into this Christ consciousness. If it meant you had to be blind in one lifetime to experience that to overcome that; well then that is what you had to be. If the next one you had to be merciful then you would have a child that was blind or something so that you could be merciful and learn how to love it. That is how they believed.
PASTOR VITALE: That is karma and they are saying what you sow in this life you reap in the next life, but that is the not the truth. We are all spiritual sons of God that are passing through the earth for the specific purpose of learning how not to fornicate with the carnal mind. Reincarnation says that the soul which is the carnal mind is being perfected. I say to you, no it is the sons of God.
COMMENT: The comment is inaudible.
PASTOR VITALE: What they are saying is that the soul is perfected, and you go from lifetime to lifetime reaping what you sowed which is karma. That is a perversion of the true word of God, and the true word of God says that there are spiritual sons that existed with the Father before the foundations of the earth, they did not start as an animal, they started as spiritual sons and they are taking many journeys passing through the earth, not reaping what they sow, but learning how to rule the flesh which is sin which is the garment that they wear by which they appear in the realm of appearance. It is very tough, but God wants the word out.
COMMENT: In the end when I am perfected, I will not be Xxxx, I will be somebody else?
PASTOR VITALE: Amen. That is a tough word. Jesus very clearly said when the women who married seven brothers was resurrected that she would not be resurrected as the wife of these seven brothers, it is in the Scripture brethren. What you know me as, and what I know you as, is a personality. When Jesus was on the Mount of Transfiguration and He shown white and glistering, what He did was He revealed His spiritual life to the three apostles that He took up there with Him. He showed them who He really was, that the personality of Jesus Christ of Nazareth was just for that season in the realm of appearance, and He has been glorified and now He in the earth as a Spirit. What He showed them was His true spiritual nature. All of us have a true spiritual nature.
I cannot see it, I am not spiritual enough to look at you and say I see your true spiritual nature. If God were to block out your personality from me, I would not know who you were. One of the signs of spiritual maturity is that we will, Paul said we are to know each other only after the spirit. How many Christians do you know, know people after the spirit? They respond to their personalities and their souls all of the time. We have to get more spiritual. Did you have another question?
COMMENT: I was not here for the message on Lazarus, and I have just been listening to the messages and the part where when a person dies, the father dies or whoever and that spiritual substance goes into the next person, and that keeps passing on? How does that tie into this; because those are individual spiritual substance.
PASTOR VITALE: No, there is one spiritual substance. We had an original ancestor which was God, and He has entered into the earth and when He entered into the earth, He became the living soul when He entered into the earth. There was one spiritual ancestor and He has increased into many members. When one man dies, that spiritual substance just goes on. The spiritual reality of it is, is that there is a spiritual being that has taken on the flesh, and because the soul and the body dies and wears out, He just moves on to the next body along the line. It is the same spiritual being that is living in the earth. His name is the Lord Jesus Christ and He was made into a man. He was made into many celled man, and He inhabits all of the bodies of the natural man in His condition of the living soul.
At the beginning the eternal one was a living soul and at the end He was a life giving spirit. The son of God entered into the earth, He was made a man, He was made sin for us, and He is on a long journey, and He is evolving from a living soul to a life giving spirit. The spiritual substance never leaves the earth. It is the soul and the body that dies and He just keeps moving into the next on the family line.
COMMENT: What if the whole family has excepted the Lord, and they are all, they all have spiritual substance, so then why do they need that substance from the person that died, I do not understand that?
PASTOR VITALE: It is not a question of their needing it, it is that the son of God exists in the realm of appearance and He exists inside of men. If a body and a soul dies, He has to go somewhere, He just moves along. This is what people are trying to say about the demons, it is not true of the demons but it is true of the Lord Jesus Christ.
COMMENT: The question is if there is a family and everyone has accepted Jesus and they are moving along spiritually, and one of them dies, does that substance from that individual go into the family that has already accepted Jesus.
PASTOR VITALE: Yes, but it is not a question of the family needing it because they have or do not have Christ, it is a question of it is from the other end, try and take it from the other end, there is a spiritual being in the earth, and He is doing a work for His Father, He was made into a man and He is being made into a life giving spirit, so when one vessel that He is dwelling in dies, the spiritual substance in Him has to go someplace, so He is gathered unto the fathers, and the fathers are existing in other vessels. Where does He go?
COMMENT: Inaudible.
PASTOR VITALE: That is very possible, I honestly do not, God did not give me great details on this, but that is very possible. All that I am saying is that there is a spiritual being in the earth, He has taken on the flesh in the form of many members and when the soul and the body dies, He is gathered to the fathers. He is not gathered to the Father God, He is gathered to the fathers and the fathers, the original spiritual ancestor which is dwelling in other bodies, and he is gathered unto them. He does not float around in the air, He is gathered unto them.
This is what a lot of people try and say happens to the demons. It does not happen to the demons, the demons die; the demons die.
It is not that we could have lived, our personality did not live, our spiritual substance existed before the foundations of the earth with the Father. We have been living for eternity with the Father. We were with the Father before the foundation of the earth.
COMMENT: Inaudible.
PASTOR VITALE: They are talking about the personality and that is not true. Our spiritual substance existed with the Father before the foundation of the earth but we do not even know what our spiritual substance is. I do not know what my spiritual substance is. Jesus knew, and He revealed it.
COMMENT: Inaudible.
PASTOR VITALE: By the spirit, amen, definitely, these personalities are passing away. All of your torment in this lifetime is going to die never to be raised up again. Let us go on. We existed with the Father from the before the foundations of the earth in accordance with Job and I can never remember if it is 27 or 37, but we sang in the heavens with the Father from before the foundation of the earth. We were propelled into the earth along with this, right after the son of God and we are learning to live in the earth covered with sin without being overcome by that sin and we pass through the earth in cycles as we go into this training which is completely controlled by the Father. It has nothing to do with reaping what you sow or good or evil or anything like that, it is merely a training procedure and when the spiritual son is overcome and fornicates with the flesh, it is just a matter of time until the flesh dies and the Father says, okay, keep on going, you are going to make it. You are going to make it because I read the end of the book, and you are going to make it, you are going to rule the earth with a rod of iron.
We seem to up to verse, well we were just talking about verse 11;
REVELATION 18:11
11. And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
We had an alternate translation on that which says;
11. And the spiritual men passing through the earth shall cry and mourn over the living soul because they think there is no longer anyone who can give them form in the realm of appearance, their minds are so overcome with carnal thoughts they cannot understand that they will take form, not only again but permanently in Christ Jesus. AT
These are the spiritual sons, they have fornicated with the harlot to the point that they do not even know the word of God, they do not even know that they are going to live in eternal life with Christ Jesus and they are mourning and groaning when they see the soul dying, not only in general, but when they see their own soul dying, they are moaning and groaning. I moan and groan every time I see my soul die, I moan and groan because it is really hard to keep your eyes on spiritual things when the flesh is so strong on you.
We are going on to verse 12; the merchandise, now we are going to find out what the merchandise is made of, the merchandise is what they are gathering. The merchandise is what is gathered together to form the soul and the body as we appear in the realm of appearance.
12. The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble,
13. And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men. KJV
It is of these things that the souls and bodies of men are formed. Let us try and understand this which is going to be fun. I worked on this for hours, it is very exciting. To buy merchandise means to gather the spiritual components necessary for incarnation. To buy merchandise means to gather the spiritual components necessary to appear in the realm of appearance.
We are going to start at the top. The first elements we have are gold and silver. What is happening is that God is his way down to meet man. You know the concept of Jacob's ladder. God is up here, and He promised Jacob that He is building a ladder. This is the earth, and that there were going to be spiritual life walking up and down the ladder. God said that He is going to open a pathway between the earth and the realm of the spirit that men can freely walk up and down, free access between the spiritual life in the realm of God and the life in the realm of appearance. That is the promise of God to Jacob, it is called Jacob's ladder.
We are also told that he who can ascend unto heaven but he who has first come down from heaven? If we are hoping to ascend into heaven, if we are hoping to be perfected, if we are hoping to be glorified, the only way it can happen is if we first come down from heaven, as a son of God that existed with the Father before the foundation of the earth. I remind you of our study on the creation. We existed with the Father in the realm of the spirit.
He propelled us into the earth, we became covered with the earth, and appeared as a man, as a natural man. This happened to the son of God, and it is happening to each of his children. He was glorified. He had glory and spiritual riches in the realm of the spirit, He was propelled into the earth and became a natural man for the specific purpose of God coming down and glorifying him and appearing in the earth as a glorified man at which point he is returning to the heavens.
God descended, propelled the son of God into the earth, He became a natural man. The natural man is now being glorified, He is ascending. If you are here, if you are listening to these teaching, if you have the Holy Spirit, you are one of the cells of the body of the natural man that God is dealing with to ascend back up into the heavens, and when you finally get as far as you can go, you are going to receive eternal life. You are going to receive eternal life. It is circle. They came out of the realm of appearance, they were propelled into the earth, they became a natural man, God is working on them to glorify them and at the end they are going to have eternal life in the flesh. Can you see circle?
It is a circle. It starts with the realm of God, it is the realm of God, and He descended into a low spiritual place where He became a natural man. He became a natural man. Here He was pure spirit, He became a natural man where He appeared, but the natural man is dying. The plan of God was first He would descend into the realm of appearance and He would multiply and He would become a many celled body. Then after He became a many celled body, He would fill all of the vessels filled with death, He would impart the life of His Spirit to them, and He would raise them up again.
The Lord and His sons were pure spirit form, they came down to the earth, they appeared as a natural man, He imparted His spirit of life to them, and they ascended. They were pure spirit, they were propelled into the earth, they appeared as a natural man, God imparted His Spirit to them and they ascended where they appeared with eternal life in the realm of appearance. It is a circle. Who is he that can ascend into heaven, except he who first descended?
There is no way you are going to be the glorified son of God if you did not first descend from heaven. That is the Scripture. You had to come down from heaven, take on the flesh, take the victory over the flesh, and return unto the Spirit of God ruling the soul and the body that God has given you. That is the plan of God. We were not fishes first, we were not wild animals first, we were sons of God from before the foundation of the earth and what is happening to us is that God is wrapping us in flesh and giving us the ability to rule that flesh so that we can live for the life of the ages in the realm of time. Do you have it? Do you understand it? Is everybody okay?
We did not start off as wild animals, we started off as sons of God. We were propelled into the earth and we are in the process of learning to not let that earth overcome us and cause us to fornicate and destroy us. The first element that God lists when He talks about the spiritual elements that are gathered to form a man is gold. I am just going to label this God descends.
The first several elements describe God's descent, and the first one is gold, which is the Spirit of God Himself, it is the Spirit of God in the form of His son that is the first element that is required to appear in the realm of appearance. We just showed you that on the circle, if you did not descend there is no way you are going to ascend. You had to come out of the realm of the Spirit of God. You have to have a spiritual substance that came out of the spiritual realm of God if you are going to ascend.
Satan is not named. We talked about this, we have had this in other Scriptures where God does not name Satan when we did the study on the creation, we were told that God did not name Satan but we know that what happened over here was that when the Spirit of God descended into the earth, it was joined to the ashes that was on the face of the earth. What did He become, does anybody remember what the son of God became after He descended and was propelled into the earth and He was joined to that existence in the earth, does anyone remember what He became?
He became the soul. The next element that the Scripture says we need which is a part of causing men to appear is silver and silver refers to the soul. It is the soul that has not sinned. Silver refers to a soul that has not sinned. We know at the beginning the soul had no sin. The son of God was propelled into the earth and the living soul was formed and it was without sin at that time. God said it was good.
The next thing was precious stones, this was the next element that you need. What is happening here is that God is descending, the lowest point of His descent is natural man. That is the lowest point of his descent into the earth. He will become a natural man. He is on His way down because He cannot go back up if He does not go down first. We are talking about precious stones, and the word precious is Strong's #5093 and it means esteemed or valuable. 1 Peter 1:18-19 says;
18. Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
19. But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: KJV
That is the same word precious, it means esteemed and valuable. We are talking about esteemed and valuable stones. The word stones typify Christ. We established that in a recent meeting. I gave you several Scriptures that indicate that Jesus Christ is the stone, He called the stone. The precious stones typify the source of His spiritual life as coming from God. It is the source of spiritual life coming as God. Only God is esteemed and valuable.
What I am really saying to you here is that where I said over here, Satan is not named, I am going to put it in parentheses, Satan is not named but we know that he was there so the living soul could be formed. What is not named over here is Christ. The next thing that is coming is Christ. It is not named but you are going to see that the precious stones and the pearls and the fine linen signified Christ. We are going to go on. The next thing is pearls. We need all of these things to cause man to appear. The precious stones we said are the life of God, the life of God in the earth right? He is already joined to Satan. The precious stones are the life of God is in the earth. Pearls in the Scripture typify wisdom; they refer to the mind of God.
Christ is made unto us wisdom. We are talking about the mind of God in the soul; the mind of God in the earth, the mind of God. This is the life of God and that is the spirit; this is the mind of God in the earth.
We had God, He was propelled into the earth, he formed the living soul, and now this is what is coming forth, this is what is coming forth, precious stones, the life of God and pearls the mind of God in the earth and the fine linen refers to the righteousness of saints. Fine linen typifies clean garments and it refers to the righteousness of the saints. We are talking about the righteousness of God.
This is before the fall. The silver is the living soul before the fall, and this is what he was made of. He was made of precious stones, the life of God, pearls the mind of the wisdom of God and fine linen is righteousness. Silver, the soul that has not sinned is equal to these three characteristics. We are descending, we are descending, we are going down.
The next elements that appear, the next elements that we need to incarnate are purple, silk, and scarlet. What I am trying to say to you here is that these characteristics, precious stones, pearls, and fine linen, they are the characteristics of Christ. The soul has not fallen yet. All of these characteristics are present in it. These other characteristics of Christ; there is the Spirit of God, the life of God which is the Spirit of God, the mind of God which is the soul, and His righteousness.
Those are the characteristics of Christ. The soul lost them as it fell, but these characteristics appeared on the way down. We are going into the next three things now which I am going to do backwards, the Scripture says, purple, silk, and scarlet. I am going to reverse it; I am going to start with the scarlet. I will tell you why in a minute. We are going to scarlet next, and scarlet is made from the crushed eggs of female insects.
It says Strong's #2847 if you want to look it up and it typifies the spiritual life of God, spiritual life of God. The next one is silk, and silk, well the word in the Greek, it was the wrong number because they could not have possibly meant that, so I went into the Hebrew, it is Strong's #4897 and it means silk as drawn out from the cocoon. Silk is something that is drawn out from a cocoon and it typifies the redeemed soul of man, or the soul of man emerging from the cocoon of human existence.
We are not what we are going to be. Paul said, we do not know what we are going to be, but we see Jesus. We do not know what we are going to look like. This is the soul of man; this is the emerging soul of man, the emerging soul of man. We have scarlet, silk, I have a Scripture for you, I just want to finish this, and purple. Purple is a dye that required a great labor to produce in Bible days and accordingly the garments dyed with this color were worn only by priests and kings and purple refers to the imparted anointing of the Melchizedek order; priesthood which is available to men through the new covenant whereby we are kings and priests.
We are descending and He is going to lose all of this. I want suggest to you that this is Christ, this one is the sons of God. Have you all heard of the 42nd generation? Christ has spiritual children, Christ has spiritual children; we are it. God reproduced Himself and Christ appeared. Christ is reproducing Himself and we are appearing, the sons of God which are the 42nd generation. All of these characteristics are present as man descends and they are all elements that are gathered to form man.
I just wanted to take the time to say that Ezekiel 16:1-10 describes this evolution. I just wanted to read you part of it. Ezekiel 16:1-10;
EZEKIEL 16:1-10
1. Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2. Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations,
3. And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto Jerusalem; Thy birth and thy nativity is of the land of Canaan; thy father was an Amorite, and thy mother an Hittite. (he is just saying that they have fallen and they are filled with sin)
4. And as for thy nativity, in the day thou wast born thy navel was not cut, neither wast thou washed in water to supple thee; thou wast not salted at all, nor swaddled at all.
5. None eye pitied thee, to do any of these unto thee, to have compassion upon thee; but thou wast cast out in the open field, to the lothing of thy person, in the day that thou wast born.
6. And when I passed by thee, and saw thee polluted in thine own blood, I said unto thee when thou wast in thy blood, Live; yea, I said unto thee when thou wast in thy blood, Live. (I saw you in your filth and I said unto you, live)
7. I have caused thee to multiply as the bud of the field, and thou hast increased and waxen great, and thou art come to excellent ornaments: (you have grown up, the natural man has increased) thy breasts are fashioned, and thine hair is grown, whereas thou wast naked and bare.
8. Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; (anybody know what the time of love is with the human race? Christ is calling us into salvation and He is going to marry us, it is the time of love. When the natural man has increased to the point that he is mature enough and only God knows when that is, God is joining Himself to you so that Christ can be formed in you, it is the time of love) and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: (because the natural man without God is naked) yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, (salvation) saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine. (that has happened to everybody here, first you were a natural man and when our spiritual being reached that spiritual place of maturity, the Lord said we were ready for love and He joined Himself to us and made us His)
9. Then washed I thee with water; yea, I throughly washed away thy blood from thee, and I anointed thee with oil. (I washed you with the word of God and I gave you my Holy Spirit)
10. I clothed thee also with broidered work, and shod thee with badgers' skin, and I girded thee about with fine linen, and I covered thee with silk. KJV
These are all elements that are present in the tabernacle, in David's tabernacle. My whole point here is that these qualities, silk, I am doing it basically on silk but also fine linen, these are elements that are present when God starts drawing us back. God is still descending here and all of these elements are present in the creation of God. When we say that God gathers or when the living soul gathers, we are not told that they gather every one of these elements, every one of these elements are required to form a spiritual man that is going to have the life of the ages.
When Satan gathers, he does not have access to the things of God. We just talked about the qualities of the sons of God being present as God descends down into the earth; these are all of the elements that He is making available for the gathering. The next thing that we are going to see on the earth is that the soul man is gathered on the earth. God is still descending, He is still coming down, He is making available all of these characteristics in the realm of the spirit, that are going to be picked up as He ascends.
As He is descending he is shedding of His own substance and His own life and making these spiritual elements available for the time when man is going to be gathered unto glorified life.
We originally said God is descending and now I am going to say the soul man is gathered on the earth. The next element that we have in the Scripture is Revelation 18:12. We are talking about thyine wood and all manner of vessels of ivory and a manner of vessels of precious wood. The first thing we have here is thyine wood.
At this point God is still descending and the natural man is appearing on the earth. The natural man is appearing on the earth. It is Strong's #2367 and it means fragrant and very strong wood. It is a product of Babylon. Fragrance means odor or scent. Odors are unseen and they typify the spirit. Babylon typifies the living soul in the unseen realm. Anybody have a problem with that? We have done that over and over, this is Babylon, and this is the realm of appearance down here. She is the unseen realm of the soul.
The thyine wood typifies the soul of man, of natural man in the unseen realm. It is the soul of natural man unseen. God is putting man together and one of the elements in him is thyine wood. To get down to this place the Lord God descended from the heavens shedding all of the spiritual gifts that we had on the board before. He is descending and now He has come to a place where He is finally going to form natural man.
Thyine wood appears and it is the unseen realm of the soul. The next vessel is ivory. That is the next element. It is in the Greek, it is #1661 and it means an elephant. In the Hebrew it is #8127 and there they actually acknowledge the tusks. In the Greek they do not separate the animal, the element from the tusks. In the Hebrew they separate it and they call it a sharp instrument used to pierce the tusks of the elephant, they do not separate the ivory from either the elephant or the tusks, they consider it all one. What are we saying here? In Amos 3:15 it says:
AMOS 3:15
And I will smite the winter house with the summer house; and the houses of ivory shall perish, and the great houses shall have an end, saith the LORD. KJV
We know even though ivory is tough and it is hard, as far as I know it is almost indestructible, it is not of God because it will perish, it is a natural substance that will perish. Webster's says that ivory is white, which according to our studies in the creation indicates that it is a spiritual power but it does not have the life of God. What color is a spiritual power that has the life of God? It is red, so this is a white color and it does not have the life of God. It is strong, however, it is the same word that is used to mean teeth, and when I looked up the word teeth in Webster's, it said that hard white substance that appears that has its roots down beneath the flesh. We are talking about a strong spiritual power, ivory is the soul in the realm of appearance after Satan pierced through, but his roots are still down deep. This is what we are saying here.
This is Satan, remember he passed through into the realm of appearance and he became hard. Remember? Am I losing anybody? Tell me if I am losing you. Ivory is the soul in the realm of appearance. Ivory is the soul in the realm of appearance. He is Satan in the realm of appearance. He has pierced through to the realm of appearance although his roots would look like this. This is the soul, we know that Satan is a part of it, and although he appears in the realm of appearance in the form of a man, his roots are in the soul. His roots are unseen.
COMMENT: Inaudible.
PASTOR VITALE: We do not have the carnal mind yet because the carnal mind is the son of Satan and Eve. This is Satan himself, I see what you are saying, the manifestation in the earth would be the daughter of Babylon in the realm of the soul, it is the carnal mind. I am trying not to make this confusing, it is confusing enough as it is, I am trying to keep it as simple as I can.
What we are talking about here are the spiritual elements that God has to gather together to make a man. As He descended He shed off of Himself all of the glory that was on the board before, this is the son of God descending into the earth. This is the son of God that is propelled in to the earth, and as He goes down, He was losing all of those elements that were on the board before, and now He has come to the place where He is going to appear as a natural man. He is made of thyine wood, the unseen realm of the soul, and he is made of ivory which is Satan after he pierced through into the realm of appearance.
He is made of precious wood. It is the appearance of the natural man, precious wood. That is the same word precious with regard to precious stones, and the precious wood is the promise. Remember the son of God; look at what has happened to Him; He is the unseen soul which is Babylon. He is the soul in the realm of appearance which is Satan, Satan's offspring, the daughter of Babylon, the carnal mind. They all cross over. There is a third element in him as he appears in the earth as the natural man, it is called precious wood and that is the promise of God. What does God promise to do? He is going to bring them back up again. He is not going to leave in this condition. What a terrible condition he is in! He is made up of Babylon and Satan. How horrible; but he has the promise in it is precious wood. God is going to restore him.
The next quality that we have here are brass, iron, and marble. Man is starting to come up. Remember this one and the next one are the two lowest realms that the son of God falls to and then he starts going back up. This is man without the root of Christ. I believe that man is evolving. This is man without the root of Christ in the age that man appeared without the root of Christ. Spiritual man is passing through the earth in many journeys and he is evolving. First He was God, He descended into the earth, He became a natural man and then He is going back up again.
He is on long journey. This is the soul man. There was a season when he was birthed without the root of Christ. God said to Adam, Go forth and multiply and Genesis 5 says that Adam multiplied in his own likeness and in his own image. There was a season when he did that without the root of Christ. God was only concerned with numbers, a set amount of numbers of cells that are going to be in this body.
He said to Adam, I am not worried about the root of Christ, I am not worried about bringing you unto salvation, I am not worried about bringing you unto glorification. I want you to multiply across the face of the earth and then when I have the vessels, I will deal with you, I will save you, I will bring you back a cell at a time; just give me the vessels. There was a season on the earth that man appeared in great numbers without the root of Christ.
We are moving on now to the next level, and we are talking about brass, iron, and marble, and I am going to suggest to you that this is the season in which man started to appear with the root of Christ. The first thing that we have is brass. These are the elements we need for man to appear on the earth in this condition, natural man with the root of Christ. Brass typifies judgment; we have had much teaching on that, and it refers to Satan in the unseen realm; Satan unseen, brass, judgment.
Iron is the next one. He is the spirit that rules the living soul. He is unseen; he is the spirit that rules the living soul. He is unseen. Soul in the realm of appearance is the daughter of Babylon. The carnal mind is really not seen, and it is up here. Do not get hung up on these different names, just try and understand the concept of what I am saying. The next element is iron. Iron refers to spiritual strength in the earth. We have had recent teaching on iron ore, that iron is locked in rocks and ore, and to get it out you have to smelt it.
You might recall the teaching that we had recently about Nebuchadnezzar's dream and his statue had iron and clay. The feet were made of iron and clay. What God showed us was that the clay was man in the realm of appearance and the iron was the spiritual life that was given substance to man without Christ. Iron is Satan, this is Satan unseen judgment, and this is Satan in the earth, appearing in the earth, he wraps himself in clay and he appears in the earth. The third one is marble. Like we said over here, the third element was the promise.
We have the same thing over here. The third element is marble and that is the promise. I am going to say to you that the only hope for the soul in this condition where he is made up of Satan ruling as the prince of the power of the air, and Satan the iron element around which the clay is wrapped, as he appears in the earth, the only hope for man in this condition is the cleansing of the human spirit; which is trapped in here.
We do not hear about her, she is victimized, but we know that she has fornicated with Satan and she is producing the carnal mind. The only hope for man in this condition is the deliverance of the human spirit so that she could produce Christ. The only way man is going to ascend is he is coming down; he has hit an all-time low, this man without the root of Christ, this man at least with the root of Christ. These are the two all-time lows, and the only way he is going to get back up is if Christ appears in him. That is the only way back up.
We have marble, the third element of the man that has the root of Christ. The word marble is Strong's #3139 and it is from a root that means to glisten. Glistening relates to oil and that is a type through the Scripture of the Holy Spirit. Glistening oil of the Holy Spirit and marble typifies that which is spirit in the soul.
We know that locked in the living soul is that element of spirit, her name is Eve, she is straight from the life of God, and God put her there for the specific purpose to fertilize her. She was put there helpless as she was for the specific purpose of bringing forth Christ so that this creation that is now fallen to this natural state, that God can appear in it and it can become glorified.
This is her hope that she is going to be set free, the hope of the soul in this condition is that she is going to be set free. What we are talking about now are all of the elements that are required to make a glorified man. As the son of God descended into the earth, He shed all of the gold and the silver and the pearls and everything that we had on the board before. He shed it as He descended into the earth and He reached the point where He hit rock bottom, that He became wood typifying the natural man, and this was him without the root of Christ, in the unseen realm He was thyine wood, the carnal mind, and in the realm of appearance, He was ivory, He could be seen, He was hard, and He was tough, daughter of Babylon.
God did not leave Him without hope Him without hope, He left Him with the promise of precious wood; that this wood; that the son of God had descended to, that was so vile and corruptible, that it could be made precious, that it could again be made honorable; that He was going to raise it up again.
The next season for man in the earth was man bearing the root of Christ. It is typified by brass, Satan ruling as the prince of the power of the air unseen, the spirit that rules in the living soul. The second element that makes up man with the root of Christ is iron, Satan appearing in the earth with the clay in accordance with Nebuchadnezzar's statue. He is the spiritual strength that appears in the earth wrapped in clay and the hope; God always gives a hope. No matter how low down you are, there is always a hope imparted by God, and for man bearing the root of Christ, unredeemed man, natural man, bearing the root of Christ in this season, His hope is that the human spirit could be set free and bring forth Christ because the soul shall be saved in childbearing.
That is the only way natural man is getting back up to God. She has got to bring forth Christ. There is no other way that she is going to do it.
We are moving into the next realm. We see natural man without the root of Christ, but man is evolving. He was God in the pure spirit form, He descended, He took on the flesh, He became a natural man and then the last thing that we saw was that God gathered Him to appear in the realm of appearance with the root of Christ so that the human spirit could be cleansed and Christ could appear in her so that she might be saved.
We are up to the man in the earth that is being convicted of sin. The next season we have man in the earth, He is not just a wild animal anymore, He is being convicted of sin and the Holy Spirit is dealing with Him. The Holy Spirit is dealing with Him. This is the next season of the man in the earth and it is described by cinnamon, and odors and ointments and frankincense. I am going to do that backwards, I am going to start with the ointments. This is pretty much where we are today, this is our modern man; this is where we are.
God is dealing with him; he is being convicted of sin. Is that not where we are in the world today, is that not where we are in the program of God? We are not the wild animals without the root of Christ. Thousands of years ago, men were animals running across the earth; they just killed each other and murdered each other. This is what we are up to in the program of God; God is dealing with man to convict him of sin. Ointments are the appearance of God in man by His Holy Spirit.
God convicts man of sin and He appears in him. Ointments are applied to the skin and they typify the anointing of the Holy Spirit. There are three things that the Holy Spirit does when He comes to man and one of them is that He convicts them of sin. After He convicts them of sin, and man confesses, the Holy Spirit appears in man.
The next thing we have is the cinnamon and frankincense. Incense was burned by the Hebrews as a sweet smelling savor or a sacrifice unto God. The burning of spices typifies man's offering of his own soul. There is a lot of teaching that goes on about the Levitical sacrifices, and yes Christ was the perfect sacrifice, that has made righteousness available to us, but brethren, the soul that sins must die. Our souls must burn. It is a spiritual happening. When the fire of God, when the judgments of God contact our soul; our soul is burning up. We have had some teaching on this.
Our soul is burning up. The spirit that is within the soul is going to come forth as pure gold. We had this not too long ago.
Remember this is the soul, and Satan is in there, the carnal mind, I am just doing this fast, Adam is in there, and Eve is in there, and it is on fire. The judgments of God; Satan is going to burn, Adam is going to burn, the carnal mind is going to burn, totally destroyed, what is left? Everything burns, what is left? The spirit, the gold is the only thing that will not burn. We are going to have the gold which is Eve and she is going to come out clean and when she comes out clean, God is going to marry her and Christ is going to appear in her.
If you are going through trials and tribulations and terrible times, your soul is burning up for the specific purpose of getting Eve free so that God can fertilize her and Christ can appear in you. That is what is happening to you. This is the dispensation that we are living in today. Cinnamon and frankincense; we are talking about the elements that are necessary to gather together so that a man will appear in the earth. We are talking about the man that is now being called unto salvation. God is ascending. He hit bottom with the natural man and is now on His way back up, He is living in a human vessel that is being approached by the Spirit of God and the Holy Spirit appears in Him. He is on His way back up. It is a circle. You cannot go up until you first come down. He is on His way back up.
The cinnamon and the frankincense represents the offering of man's own soul, our own soul must burn. Christ did not die leaving nothing for us to do. Our own soul that is steeped in sin must burn so that our human spirit can be set free and Christ can appear in us.
We have the odors which result from the burning, and they typify the purified human spirit. The odors typify the purified human spirit. When you burn something, when you burn the incense, it is a substance and the odor that goes up is a gaseous substance which is spirit. The Holy Spirit appears in man; man's own soul is offered up as a living sacrifice to God, and what we get is the odor, the sweet smelling odor of the purified spirit that was originally from God. The only hope of man in this condition; remember we have been saying there is a promise with the man without the root of Christ, we have the promise with the man with the root of Christ, the only hope was the cleansing of the human spirit and with man in this condition, the human spirit is cleansed and the only hope for man in this condition is the birth of Christ; the hope of mankind.
It is not all over. The church is telling you today, you have got it made if you are in this condition, but it is not. The hope of mankind is the birth of Christ; you have got to birth Christ.
If you stop here you are not going to make it. Your body and your soul is still going to continue to die, there is no way you are getting back up into the realm of the heavens that you came down from. You have to birth Christ. The next element in the Scripture is the wine and the oil.
The wine and the oil are the elements that are necessary. We are ascending. God is listing the elements that are necessary to form a glorified man; everything that we have talked about previously and we also need the wine and the oil. The wine typifies the Spirit of God in man. Wine is the Spirit of God. We know that we need the Spirit and the word. Wine is the Spirit of God, and oil is the life of God in the flesh. The oil is the life of God. Where is the Holy Spirit? Where does He appear? He is in the flesh. The wine is God in the realm of the spirit, the Father. He is the Father. The oil is the life of God in the flesh, manifested in the flesh of man.
These are all elements necessary for God to gather together a glorified man. We are winding down, this is the end, there are three more characteristics, and it is describing the elements needed for God to gather glorified man in the earth, and these elements are fine flour and wheat. I am going to do it backwards. This is glorified man, the Lord is ascending and He is going home to His Father. He is going home with a glorified body and a redeemed soul. He left His Father as a pure spirit, and He is returning with a glorified body and a redeemed soul, and the wheat represents the life of Christ which is grown to maturity. It is the fruit. It is the life of Christ that has appeared in man. It is the wheat berry, the whole of the wheat berry.
Then we have fine flour, and the fine flour represents man being ground to powder. We have been talking about that. We had some teaching on that, that the soul and the body are going to be ground to powder. They are going to be dismantled and rearranged in a glorified body. That is what happened to Jesus. When His body died on the cross, the power of God came upon it, broke it down into its basic spiritual components, rearranged it in the right order and gave Him a glorified body. That is typified by fine flour which is flour ground or milled very fine. Fine flour typifies the resurrected body. At this point, the fruit of God's Spirit, Christ, joins to the soul and body of man.
They are beaten together as small dust and you have the glorified body. This is our diagram, this is the spirit, this is the soul, and this is the body and this is the natural man, you cannot walk through him, he is solid, he is going to be broken down, the soul is going to be broken down, the body is going to be broken down, and the spirit is going to be in the midst ruling through the glorified body. This is what the glorified body looks like. This is the flesh body. That body walks through walls. It is beaten small as the dust. That body walks through walls, it goes anywhere; it does anything.
What we are talking about here with the wheat and the fine flour. These are the spiritual elements required to form a man on this level, and God is ascending, He is going back with a glorified body.
The Holy Spirit is the Scripture has a few more things to say to us here. He says, and also beasts and sheep and horses. What He is saying to us is; there are three forms in which man appears on the earth. We already had this on the board. He appears as a beast, no root of Christ. He is saying, what I just told you about, everything that I just explained to you, is the three forms that man can take on the earth, no root. Then sheep, Jesus said my sheep hear my voice, the beasts that have no root of Christ hear my voice. If you are a beast, a sheep is a beast, if you are a beast and you have the root of Christ you are a sheep. The third form that man takes on the face of the earth is a horse, and we know in Zachariah the Lord says that Israel is my goodly horse. That is when God is riding you, and God is riding you. He cannot ride you unless He is joined to you.
When the Spirit of God is joined to the soul of man which is joined to the body, you are His horse. That is how the Scripture describes it, joined to God; glorified body joined to God. You are either a beast with no root, you are a sheep with the root of Christ, and you hear His voice when He calls, because something of Him is in you, or you are a horse, you have produced Christ and you have been joined to the Father, body, soul, and spirit in a glorified body.
Then the Holy Spirit says, and chariots and slaves, and souls of men; what the Holy Spirit is saying, I have just given you all of the information of how a man is made, these are the spiritual elements and I have just told you the three forms of man as he evolves on the face of the earth and I want you to know that men are made of chariots and slaves.
Do you understand what is happening? He gave us all of the many parts of it and now He is condensing it. Men are made of chariots and slaves. All of the elements that I have just described to you; what they boil down to is, men are made of chariots and slaves. The word chariots in the Scripture means the soul.
The word chariot in the Scripture means the soul, it is where God sits. God sits in the chariot. He sits upon the cherubim which is redeemed man. The chariot is the soul, God joins to the soul. The word slave is the same word, the same Greek word; it is Strong's #4983 which is translated body in the Scripture. What is really means is that man is made out of souls and bodies. The souls and bodies are made out of all of the elements that we just went through. Simply speaking that is what man is, a soul and a body.
That word body is from a root #4982 which is the Greek word sozo, which means salvation. The soul lives in a body. The Holy Spirit is telling us, I just gave you all of those little elements that when they are pressed together, when they are gathered together, when they are formed together what you get is a soul and a body.
All of the elements that I just listed, when they are put together and when they are gathered together in their right order, what you get is a soul and a body; and finally the very last thing is the souls of men.
What the Holy Spirit is saying is, buying merchandise means forming souls and bodies and what we are talking about here is the formation of the souls and bodies of the man faced creatures. This word man, the souls of men, the word man is Strong's #444 and what it means is man faced creature, it is the same word used to describe the glorified Jesus Christ. It is the new creation man. What God is saying is all of this that we have been talking about, all of the elements that we have named, what happens when they are put in the right order is that you get souls and bodies.
What we have been talking about here, what we have been talking about for the last hour is the gathering or the formation of the souls which are man faced creatures. Why does He not mention the spirit? If there was no spirit there would not be anything. The whole thing started with the spirit in the realm of appearance. The spirit descended into the earth for the specific purpose of getting a soul and a body, the end of which process is the man faced creature that has a soul and a body.
I just want to tell you that in Revelation 13:18, the Scripture uses the same technique of telling us who the beast is just so that you can understand that He gave us all of this information. At the very end of the whole thing, He says what I am talking about is man. I just gave you all of that information and what I am saying to you in a nutshell is, that this is what it takes to make a man that has a soul and a body.
The Holy Spirit does the same thing in the Revelation 13:18, where after that whole chapter on the beast, He says,
Revelation 13:18
18. Here is wisdom, let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is six hundred threescore and six. KJV
He tells you what it is. He gives you all of this information, the beast is this, he has this he has that, and then he tells you this is a man. It is the same technique. The Holy Spirit uses the same technique. He gave us all of those substances, and when you gather them altogether and put them in one, because all things are going to be gathered into one in Christ Jesus, what you have got is the body and the soul of the man faced creature. That is how you make a man.
I think you got what I was teaching, at least in a measure. This is just a little synopsis of what you got there. I really suggest you copy this down. God started in the realm of the spirit way up here in the realm of the spirit, no body, no soul. He ended up over here in the realm of appearance. Remember it is a circle, He started in the realm of the spirit; He ended up in the realm of appearance. He started as God, as He descended He became Christ which was formed when the son was propelled into the earth. He was in the realm of the spirit, He was God, and He descended, He was formed as Christ when the son of God was propelled into the earth. He continued to go down, and as He descended He became the sons of God.
If you remember from our study on the creation, the sons of God followed Him into the earth, so when the sons of God were propelled into the earth, this is what He became; from God to Christ, then He became the natural man, He hit bottom. Then He started on His way up, and on His way up He became a man who submits to God, that is the man that is receiving the Holy Spirit. On His next step up, Christ appears in man, and on His last step up, He became the glorified creation. He descended, He hit bottom, He started up, and when He finished, He was a glorified creation. He was God in the realm of appearance. He started as God, He descended, He hit bottom, He became natural man, and by the time He returned on His journey, He was God in the flesh. He became God again, He returned to His Father with a redeemed soul and a glorified body. He came, He got back everything that He lost when He was propelled into the earth and He became a natural man and He came back with everything He lost plus a redeemed soul and a glorified body.
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