Ezekiel 11:23-25


Scriptures Commented On: Ez 11:23-25; Jn 1:14-15; 1 Sam 5:2-4; Matt 13:13; Mk 4:11-12; 2 Cor 4:4; Lk 3:38; Rom 8:11; Deut 18:15

<LivingEM> Praise the Lord!! I give all the glory to Jesus Christ, and thank Him for this chat room and for everyone who is a part of these meetings. He is truly the one great God and there is none other like Him. In overcome There is no obstacle of that he cannot overcome. There is no wall that he cannot break down, there is no power, or principality, or demon, or angel, that He cannot subdue. There is no disaster or calamity, physical, or spiritual, that He cannot circumvent, or bring down completely, if He so desires. Jehovah and his Son the Lord Jesus Christ, and His son, Christ Jesus, is the Lord of all. May the glory, and honor, and powers of this world, and of the next, be unto him, forever and forever, amen.

Are there any questions or comments today? We will wait on the Lord for a moment, the floor is open.

We will continue with

Ezek 11:23, And the glory of the LORD went up from the midst of the city, and stood upon the mountain which is on the east side of the city. (KJV)

<LivingEM> Does anybody remember what, or who, the glory of Jehovah is? the Hebrew word translated Lord, is Jehovah.

<overcomer> Risen Adam?

<LivingEM> Yes. the Hebrew word translated "glory," means "splender," "honor," "dignity," or "reverence." Adam, is the visible representation of all of these qualities of Jehovah. Adam, the glory of God, is Jehovah's majestic thought form.

John 1:14, And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among the us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the father, ) full of grace and truth.

So we see, that Jehovah's word was made flesh. Does anyone know what this means?

<LAMB> His thought became visible

<LivingEM> Yes, this is true. The Greek word translated "word," in this verse, is "logos." The Greek word "logos," signifies the thought, plus the visible representation of that thought. "Thought," is pure energy, or spirit, and the representative image of the thought is formed from matter, or earth.

"Forms," do not necessarily contain the original thought. There are "thoughts" that are not attached to "images," and there are our "images," or "forms," which are not attached to the original thought.

<LivingEM> Humanity as we see it today, is in a form which does not represent the original thought that brought its substance into being. It does not line up with Jehovah's thought. The material earth has formed a "picture" that is the exact opposite of Jehovah's originating thought. This situation has arisen because the earth has a consciousness of its own, and this "earth consciousness," diametrically opposes the consciousness "thought" that energized the earth. Jehovah gave consciousness to the earth for the specific purpose of representing His thought.

An excellent example would be for us to look in the mirror expecting to see an image of ourselves, and see the image of an alien.

The appearance of humanity at this time is a perverted image of Jehovah, the one looking in the mirror. The clay formed itself in its own image instead in the image of the "thinker."

Back to John 1:14. So we see that the image was made flesh. Paul says in1 Cor 15:39 that all flesh is not the same, that there is the flesh of men, beasts, fishes, and birds.

We have already said that the "Word," was the thought together with the representative image, so the thought and the representative image was clothed in flesh. This means there are two kinds of flesh operating here. The flesh of Adam, Jehovah's thought form, and the flesh of humanity as we know it today.

The man, Jesus, manifested two kinds of flesh to us. would anyone like to try to guess which two of the above-named types of flesh Jesus manifested?

<LAMB> Spiritual and human flesh

<LivingEM> The choices are, men, beasts, fishes, birds

<pearlmerchant> men and beasts

<LAMB> men and birds?

<LivingEM> Yes. Man and beast. And what most would consider the "man" part of Jesus, is actually the "beast" part of him. Adam is the only true man, and he is a spiritual man. Adam is not made in the image of the animal. He is made in the image of Jehovah. The "human" part of Jesus is the flesh of the beast. What part of Jesus can be identified with the flesh of fishes? Who is the principal fish?

<LAMB> Leviathan


<overcomer> leviathan

<pearlmerchant> leviathan

<LivingEM> Yes. Leviathan is the principal fish who has incarnated all of the little fishes of humanity, which we are. But those of us who serve the Lord Jesus Christ are in the process of losing our fish nature, and being engraved with the nature of Adam, the only true man who is in the image of Jehovah.

Does anyone know the name of the "Fish God" named in the Scripture?

<overcomer> dagon

<LivingEM> Yes, Dagon.

1 Sam 5:2, When the Philistines took the ark of God, they brought it into the house of Dagon, and set it by Dagon. (KJV)

Verse 3, And when they of Ashdod arose early on the morrow, behold, Dagon was fallen upon his face to the earth before the ark of the Lord, and they took Dagon, and set him in his place again. Verse 4, And when they arose early on the morrow morning, behold, Dagon was fallen upon his face to the ground before the ark of the Lord, and the head of Dagon and both the palms on his hands were cut off upon the threshold, only this stump of Dagon was left to him.

<LivingEM> Brethren, the modern-day worshipers of Dagon have, once again, placed him next to the God of Glory, but the head and the palms of the hands of the mighty fish god shall soon be cut off for ever.

The phrase "set [Him] by Dagon" means that they married Adam, the ark of God, to Leviathan. This has happened many times since the fall, but Adam resurrected as the Lord Jesus Christ is undefeatable.

Back to John 1:14. So John, speaking for the disciples, saw the glory of the only begotten of the Father, but John was not talking about Jesus' beast flesh which was covering over the resurrected Adam in the man, Jesus. So we see that the Word, Jehovah's original thought plus the visible representation of it, appeared in our world clothed in the flesh of the beast and, John says, "dwelt among us."

This is true to this very day of the true representatives of the glorified Christ. They dwell among the people that the Lord, Jesus, sends them to minister to. It is completely unscriptural to have an impersonal relationship with the people you are sent to minister to. The Lord Jesus Christ is the only true Shepherd, and He who is Spirit, manifests himself to the group primarily through one man. The Lord Jesus Christ is perfectly capable of manifesting Himself through enough men to meet the needs of the people who are truly following after Him. The word is still being made flesh today, and dwelling among His people, and, as John says, we beheld His glory.

John is saying here that the disciples were able to look past the beast flesh that covered the glorious son of God. John did not say, "we beheld HIM," meaning the physical man, Jesus. John said, we beheld the spiritual man who was the only begotten Son of the Father.

And here is the very reason why so many in the days of Jesus' flesh, could not recognize that He was the Son of God. they were not looking in the Spirit. They were looking at his physical form, rather then his spiritual form. They were looking with their physical eyes, rather then with their spiritual eyes, and so many are doing the same thing today.

All those who look with their physical eyes shall see with their physical eyes, and seeing, they shall not see.

Matt 13:13, Therefore, I speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not, and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. But, Jesus goes on to say in

Mark 4:11, And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: (KJV)

Verse 12, That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.

<LivingEM> The following translation is paraphrased [not a word by word translation]:

Mark 4: 12, So you who understand the mystery of God shall be able to teach those who have been made blind and deaf, and without understanding by Satan, the God of this world.

2 Cor 4:4, In whom the God of this world has blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine and to them.

<LivingEM> Neither Jehovah, nor the Lord Jesus Christ, is in the business of blinding or deafening anyone. The Lord Jesus Christ is sent by Jehovah to be the Saviour of the world, to open the eyes of the blind, and the ears of the deaf, and cause the nations to be gathered unto Him, the one true God, in whom alone dwells immortality. Back to

John 1:14, And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the father), full of grace and truth.

<LivingEM> So John, the disciples, and the multitude, the spiritual ones of Israel, saw the accurate representation of Jehovah because they were looking with their spiritual eyes. And because they knew that Adam is the only son that Jehovah has ever brought forth, they recognized that Adam was resurrected in the man Jesus.

This is a very important principle, because if Adam was not resurrected in the man Jesus before Jesus was crucified, the man Jesus, would not have risen from the dead. We go into this issue in more depth in our series of messages called "the Christ."

Please note that the name "Jesus" is not mentioned in John 1:14. This verse is talking about the resurrected Adam, the son of God.

Lk 3:38, Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

Jn 1:14, ......full of grace and truth.

<LivingEM> The Greek word translated "full," means to be covered in every part. Adam in the man Jesus was completed by the Spirit of Grace and the Spirit of Truth.

You may recall that Adam was not completed in the garden. This is why it was possible for him to fall in the garden. Adam had the Spirit of Truth -- he was fully educated as to his other, evil side. Adam had the Spirit of Truth, but he was not yet "filled up," or "completed," with the Spirit of Grace, which is the strength to obey the law. The resurrected Adam in the man, Jesus, received the Spirit of Grace from the one who raised him from the dead. Does anyone remember who raised Adam from the dead in the man Jesus?


<myprecous1> Eliagh

<overcomer> Elijah

<pearlmerchant> michael

<LivingEM> pm - It is not completely wrong to say that Michael raised Jesus from the dead. Michael did raise Elijah from the dead, and Elijah is Michael incarnate.

Yes, the spirit of Elijah raised Adam from the dead in the man, Jesus, and that same Spirit completed the Spirit of Truth in Adam, by giving him the ability to walk in that truth. The resurrected Adam completed the man, Jesus, who went forth doing good to his fellow man.

Rom 8:11, But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead, shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his spirit that dwells in you.

<LivingEM> Please note that the resurrection of Christ and the resurrection of Jesus are two distinctly separate events.

Jn 1:15, John bare witness of him, and cried saying, this was he of whom I spake, he that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.

<LivingEM> [paraphrased - not a word by word translation] And John witnessed that Adam had risen from the dead in the man, Jesus, saying, this is the one that I spoke about, he that is making his public appearance after me, is covering me over, and he is only rising in history because I appeared first.

At the moment, I am not sure who was speaking through John, but it was not the physical human being, John, that was speaking. It is my revelation that Elisha was incarnated in John the Baptist, but I am thrown off somewhat by the phrase "of whom I spake." At the moment I have no knowledge of either Adam or Elijah or Elisha prophesying the appearance of Messiah. What is coming to me at the moment, is that it is Michael speaking.

We know that Michael incarnated as Moses, and Moses did indeed prophesy about Messiah.

Deut 18:15, The Lord your God will raise up unto you a Prophet from the midst of you, of your brethren, like unto me, unto him you shall hearken.

<LivingEM> This is Moses speaking. At this point, it sounds to me like Michael is speaking through John about what he said when he was incarnated as Moses. Are there any questions on what I have preached before we return to Ez. Chapter 11, verse 23?

Ez 11:23, And the glory of the Lord went up from the midst of the city, and stood upon the mountain which is on the east side of the city.

<LivingEM> So Adam, Jehovah's glory, ascended from the midst of the city. Didn't we just read in Deut 18:15, "the Lord your God will raise up unto you a prophet from the midst of you." We are the cities. So we see that Adam ascended from the midst of Ezekiel, one of the cities of God, and stood up on the mountain. Does anybody remember what the "mountain" signifies?


<LAMB> The higher energy centers.

<myprecous1> the HIgher energy centers of God

<overcomer> higher energy centers

<LivingEM> Yes. The sixth energy center, the brow center, is Zion, the mountain of God. And we see that not only did Adam ascend into the brow center, but he ascended into the brow center on the east side of the city.

You may remember that there are two words translated "east" in the Scripture, ones female and the other male, signifying the two timelines that stretch out from the heart center. The Hebrew word translated "east" in Ez 11: 23, is the masculine word which means "ancient time."

Elohim's timeline of old was resurrected in the man Ezekiel, and Adam is that timeline. And what happened after Adam rose into the brow center in the man, Ezekiel? Adam gave the man, Ezekiel, a vision, a prediction for the people of the captivity.

Ezek 11:24, Afterwards the spirit took me up, and brought me in a vision by the Spirit of God into Chaldea, to them of the captivity. So the vision that I had seen went up from me.

Verse 25, Then I spake into them of the captivity all things that the Lord had shown me.

<LivingEM> Brethren, Adam is rising today in the person of Christ Jesus in the midst of men to give us a vision, by His Spirit, as to what will soon come to pass. That vision is a great vision of hope and life and deliverance from hell. The God of this world has blinded most of the Church. We who have ears that hear, and eyes that see, are called to give this message to the prisoners in human flesh. The great cataclysm, the battle of the ages, is taking place in our generation. Can anyone tell us what the end of this great conflict will be?

<LAMB> The defeat of Satan and this whole world system.

<overcomer> the appearance of Christ, the end of hell the Christ mind will be, and the carnal mind will be no more

<LivingEM> Yes, both of these answers are true. A whole new race of men is about to appear in the earth - men with the nature of God. In the beginning there will only be a few, but the numbers will increase steadily. This new race will coexist with humanity as we know it to today, probably for thousands of years. Every man born of a woman will have the opportunity to be converted into the Lord Jesus Christ's New Man, but all will not avail themselves of His invitation. They will live out their lives, and pass out of this world.

Transition and change are never easy, so the more comfortable people are, the harder it will be for them to move on spiritually. In the early days of America, many of the people who came from other nations to live here were running from their homeland. Many were criminals. Some were looking for religious freedom. But just about all who made this great change were discontent with their lives at home.

And so it shall be in the transition into the new age of Jesus Christ. There is most definitely a New Age descending upon us, but each of the two time lines has its own New Age. There are two resurrections. One into the brow center of Adam's timeline, and the other into the brow center of Leviathan's timeline. For those of us who are ascending into the timeline of the Jesus Christ, the New Age means the regeneration of our lost immortality through a relationship with the glorified Jesus Christ, deliverance from hell [which is this present world], and restoration to true life through the re-ascension of our consciousness into the higher energy centers of Adam's timeline. But for those who choose the other path, they will "wake-up" in the brow energy center of Leviathan's timeline, where they will find themselves married to the Primordial Serpent.

I do not know exactly what this will mean for them, but I do not see how it could be a desirable lifestyle. The race of men that existed at the time that Jehovah tore down the Tower of Babel, were "round" and very fierce. I do not believe that this race was physically round, but that they were beings that the serpents circle was completed in. That is, the fiery serpent in the individual was married to Leviathan, and Leviathan was married to the Primordial Serpent, in the same manner that the fiery serpent in the individual will marry Christ Jesus, and Christ Jesus will marry the glorified Jesus Christ.

This race of "round" beings were "fierce." This says to me that they were tormented beings, because I can tell you from personal experience, that the more wounded a person is, the fiercer they become. This principle is demonstrated very clearly in the "sport" of bull fighting. The bull is tormented with knives in his flesh, rapidly waving flags and loud noises, for the specific purpose of making him as fierce as possible.

We also know from the Alternate Translation of the Book of Revelation, that the man who is ascended into the brow energy center of Leviathan's timeline becomes a "Wild Beast," and that the "Beast" of revelation is, in fact, a many-membered company who has so ascended.

I encourage you all to confess your sins and repent, to study to show yourself approved, and to seek the Lord with all of your heart, all of your mind, and all of your personality [soul]. Flee from evil, and do good, and be at peace with all men to the fullest extent possible, for this is the nature of the Father. May the God of peace bruise Satan under your feet very soon. God bless you all. good night.

<overcomer> In Mark 4:11-12 Jesus said He spoke in parables to keep them from seeing? no What does this mean, because it does sound like it in the King James that he didn't want them to see.

<LivingEM> I explained this during the meeting, saying that Satan, the God of this world blinds us, even though the King James translation says otherwise. I expect that your question will be answered when you review the transcript

<overcomer> I think I heard someone say it was because their hearts were wicked so he didn't want them to see. oh, so it's the opposite of what the King James said

<LivingEM> The English word "not" is a translation of a negative particle, which means the word can be translated Satan. it is Satan who keeps us blind.

<overcomer> also in LK. 3 it speaks of Joseph's lineage but Joseph did not conceive Jesus so why is Joseph's lineage given to refer to Jesus lineage

<LivingEM> I don't know anything about that, but if the Lord gives me explanation I will tell you.

<overcomer> okay thank anyway <

overcomer> also, you feel we will coexist for thousands of years with humanity and they will go on reproducing as they are

<LivingEM> Yes. change comes very slowly. This is not so strange if you think of it in terms of how far advanced we are in this country compared to the natives of other lands.

<overcomer> I thought they would be forced soon to go into one timeline or the other and the timeline of Leviathan would keep them in some new condition of hell, but not going on like reproducing like they are

<LivingEM> Even the refugees coming out of Albania exist in a different world than we do. If you are talking about what I said about the immortals possessing the peoples of this world, this will happen in one man at a time, over a long period of time

<overcomer> over thousands of years?

<LivingEM> That's the way it looks to me right now.

<overcomer> okay, that was my questions. thank you

<LivingEM> You are welcome

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Sheila R. Vitale is the founding teacher and pastor of Living Epistles Ministries and Christ-Centered Kabbalah. In that capacity, she expounds upon the Torah (Scripture) and teaches Scripture through a unique Judeo-Christian lens.

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