07/01/98
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LivingEM: I would like to start with a prayer
LivingEM: the warfare in the spirit continues to rage
LivingEM: I continued to say that so long as no one in hurt we are ahead
LivingEM: but this afternoon while I was ordering a sandwich and a deli, a can of soda
LivingEM: fell off a shelf that was two feet above my head
LivingEM: and came close enough to my foot, just touch one of my toes
LivingEM: I felt the impact, but was not hurt
LivingEM: 1/4 of in. closer, and my toe would have been broken
LivingEM: one in. closer, and my foot could have been broken
LivingEM: it was my right foot, so had the worst happened, I would not have been able to drive
LivingEM: I'm giving thanks to Jesus Christ, my Saviour, my husband,
LivingEM: and my protector in all things, for his mercy upon me
LivingEM: it is hard to believe that something like this could happened twice to one person,
LivingEM: but this is the second time that this has happened to me
LivingEM: approximately 15 years ago, while working at a secular job,
LivingEM: a party was given during working hours, so I had to attend
LivingEM: there was a kitchen in the office
LivingEM: someone had put a gallon bottle of vodka on top of the refrigerator
LivingEM: and not pushed it back far enough
LivingEM: I opened the refrigerator door, and a full 1 gallon bottle
LivingEM: fell to the floor, just missing my foot, but close enough to be very distressing
LivingEM: Father, in the Name of Jesus, we thank you for our lives
LivingEM: and for what ever health we have
LivingEM: be thank you Lord that our legs function, and that we walk
LivingEM: we thank you Father, that our eyes and ears function
LivingEM: thank you that our hands work, and that are digestive tracts and illumination systems work
LivingEM: we thank you Father that we have all that we need to be physically independent
LivingEM: we thank you Father that we are in the process of receiving from you everything that we
LivingEM: need to be intellectually emotional and spiritually independent
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LivingEM: on there any questions today?
LivingEM: I'll talk to you today about what the Lord has shown me recently
LivingEM: I really shouldn't be surprised anymore, but much to my surprise
LivingEM: I recently found out that there is a psychologist/psychiatrist (?), and perhaps more than
LivingEM: one, who is moving into deep spiritual waters with his patients
LivingEM: he has his own terminology for almost everything that he talks about
LivingEM: but his message is the same message that I'm preaching here, but outside of Christ.
LivingEM: He talks about the "spiritual couple" within each individual
LivingEM: does anybody know the names of the spiritual couple, as we teach it here
LivingEM: ?
DANIEL42: cain and abel
Myprecous1: kUNDALINI/ OURSELVES
LivingEM: this is a good guess, but not correct
PSALM 29 2: Satan?
LivingEM: KundaliniIs one memberIs of the spiritual couple. is she the male or the female?
Myprecous1: lEVITHAN /FIERY SERPENT
PSALM 29 2: Female
LivingEM: Yes, Leviathan and the fiery serpent
LivingEM: yes, Kundalini, who is the fiery serpent, is the female
LivingEM: and Leviathan is the male
LivingEM: it is true that Kundalini/the fiery serpent is in a male/female relationship with us,
LivingEM: but we are not spiritual, we are physical beings
LivingEM: Kundalini is male to our personality and female to Leviathan
LivingEM: Christ Jesus in us is in a parallel relationship with who?
Myprecous1: yHE
PSALM 29 2: Carnal mind?
Myprecous1: tHE lORD jESI
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Myprecous1: U tHE lord jesus christ
LivingEM: the Lord Jesus is correct.
LivingEM: Christ Jesus, who is being formed in the individual, is male to the personality which we are
LivingEM: and female in his relationship to the Lord Jesus Christ
LivingEM: when one views a concept of spiritual male/female as levels of authority, it is easier to
LivingEM: comprehend
LivingEM: but, of course, for those who have eyes to see
LivingEM: the principles of spiritual manhood exists in our physical society as well
LivingEM: a husband is male to his wife and his children,
LivingEM: but he is female, or subordinate, to his employer to his parents, to his pastor and to God
LivingEM: a mother is male to her children, but female to her husband her pastor and toGod
LivingEM: the joke, of course, but not really joke, is that the children are male to the family pets
LivingEM: any questions Or comments?
LivingEM: so our author knows that there is a spiritual couple
LivingEM: he appears to be very knowledgeable about the myths of early cultures
LivingEM: and, in particular, early spiritual cultures
LivingEM: I find it so interesting to see that spiritual knowledge which has been around for centuries
LivingEM: and used both for good evil purposes thought out the generations
LivingEM: by people who could not read or write
LivingEM: is now appearing in our generation, couched in difficult, unfamiliar words
LivingEM: that the common man cannot understand
LivingEM: most likely, someone trying to read this book, without a background in psychology, would be
LivingEM: lost
LivingEM: he mixes psychological diagnoses, such as, narcissim and borderline disorder
LivingEM: with spiritual mysteries that have been hidden for ages
LivingEM: and shunned by the Western world, and Christians in particular.
LivingEM: He says that the marital couple who is depicted as siamese twins,
LivingEM: that is, one body and two heads, in some drawings
LivingEM: in each individual, can be engaged in a spiritual sexual union, or not so engaged
LivingEM: I'm speaking about the marital couple within one individual
LivingEM: it seems to me that he believes that the consummation of this marriage is necessary for
LivingEM: the human that they indwell, to be emotionally sound
LivingEM: it seems to me that this is true
LivingEM: what I do not understand at this point, is this
LivingEM: up until now I have described this union
LivingEM: as "a full stature of good or evil"
LivingEM: or we might say, completion in the serpent
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LivingEM: up until this point, I have believed that completion in the serpent on the evil side
LivingEM: would be a disaster for the individual, in that they would be enslaved
LivingEM: and that completion in the serpent on the good side
LivingEM: would make one what some people call a white witch
LivingEM: that is, one who was spiritually powerful, but only uses their power
LivingEM: to heal and do other good works
LivingEM: now, I know, that the exercise of spiritual power that is not the power of the Lord Jesus
LivingEM: can only be used for good, as man understands the term
LivingEM: according to God, spiritual power that is used for purposes other than he has ordained
LivingEM: is evil. This is a great mystery to many Christians
LivingEM: who have the Holy Spirit. They cannot understand how they can be guilty of witchcraft
LivingEM: when they have the Holy Spirit
LivingEM: the answer goes something like this:
LivingEM: there is only one power. It belongs to the Lord Jesus Christ
LivingEM: but those who uses power to carry out the instructions of the carnal mind
LivingEM: are moving in witchcraft, even though at the very next moment,
LivingEM: they might be using this same power to carry at the instructions of the Lord Jesus Christ
LivingEM: James expressed this situation by saying, brethren, Is not right that both salt and sweet
LivingEM: water should be flowing from the same fountain.
LivingEM: Humanity is the fountain, Satan is the saltwater, and the Lord Jesus Christ is the sweet
LivingEM: water
LivingEM: any questions before I returned to the main subject?
LivingEM: So, back to the spiritual couple
LivingEM: I have recently found out that people who are completed in the serpent, on the good side at
LivingEM: least, seem to have many of the problems of the average man
LivingEM: or least, the man who is spiritual in Christ, but not yet completed through marriage to the
LivingEM: Lord Jesus
LivingEM: so back to our psychiatrist
LivingEM: he practices a form of therapy which, to me, is nothing less than witchcraft
LivingEM: he manifests the spiritual couple within himself
LivingEM: which appears as one entity. He calls it embodiment
LivingEM: let me say this first
LivingEM: he calls why we would call Satan or the Devil, energy fields
LivingEM: he has a revelation that everyone is indwelt by a series of energy fields
LivingEM: and that these energy fields can manifest in an embodied state
LivingEM: to put it in our terminology
LivingEM: Satan, our in visible, unconscious mind
LivingEM: and take form
LivingEM: I'm not talking about a physical form, which, at this time
LivingEM: I have no revelation on
LivingEM: the I'm talking about etheric form
LivingEM: for those of you don't know the etheric body is the in visible part
LivingEM: of the physical body
LivingEM: it is in visible to the human eye, but not invisible to those who have astral vision
LivingEM: spirit alone has no visible form, as far as I know,
LivingEM: in any of the planes of consciousness
LivingEM: in some of the recent meetings in New York we have discussed the name of Satan's form
LivingEM: although I have not expressed it exactly this way
LivingEM: actually, it is my belief that the embodiment is more than Satan alone
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LivingEM: that the embodiment is Satan woven together with the personality
LivingEM: and called in the Scripture, the old man
LivingEM: is anybody know the name of the entity that inhabits the right side of the heart center
LivingEM: center?
LivingEM: in the old testament she is called ____
LivingEM: and in the new testament she is called_____
LivingEM: in the old Testament, she is called Ashtaroth or Astarte
LivingEM: in the New Testament she is called the Devil
LivingEM: the Devil, in this hour is being dismantled
LivingEM: Satan is being separated from the personality
LivingEM: so that Christ Jesus can join with the personality
LivingEM: which joining is called "the adoption"
LivingEM: and the personality who was a Devil, will be reormed in the image of the Lord Jesus Christ
LivingEM: through union with Christ Jesus, and those of us who were called
LivingEM: the Devil shall be called the Sons of God
LivingEM: any questions?
LivingEM: so, our psychiatrist is aware of spiritual forces within human beings, that he calls
LivingEM: energy fields
LivingEM: back to our author
LivingEM: it is my understanding of his writing, that the spiritual marital couple
LivingEM: when joined, appear as one entity, which takes formed
LivingEM: in the etheric plane. I think I said that you need astral sight to see this manifestatio
LivingEM: of the correct word is etheric sight
LivingEM: the astral plane is the emotional plane
LivingEM: the etheric plane of consciousness has to do with the physical body
LivingEM: I'm sorry for the confusion, but this embodiment must take place in the astral plane
LivingEM: not the etheric plane
LivingEM: so, an embodiment of our author's joined spiritual couple appears in the therapy session
LivingEM: and encounters the manifesting embodiment of the patient
LivingEM: and there is an interaction between the two
LivingEM: now, the man testing embodiment in the patient is not a married
LivingEM: couple, that is why she is the patient
LivingEM: she is incomplete, due to dysfunction within a spiritual being
LivingEM: according to our author, the couple within cannot join, the result being,
LivingEM: that the patient is in a state of spiritual death
LivingEM: so what our author is saying, is that the spiritual being within him
LivingEM: when it manifests is strong enough to produce healing in the individual who is fragmented
LivingEM: now, brethren, this is nothing new, except that it has been recognized
LivingEM: as witchcraft for generations
LivingEM: what is interesting though, is that this is how the Lord Jesus Christ heals
LivingEM: you see, when the Lord Jesus does it, it is acceptable to God
LivingEM: when Satan does it, it is not acceptable to God
LivingEM: but there is a measure of healing through this method
LivingEM: even when Satan does it
LivingEM: could this method then be advisable?
LivingEM: No. Why not? because the exercise of Satanic power
LivingEM: is a violation of the basic law of the universe which is Jehovah's law
LivingEM: and, accordingly, subject to the sowing and reaping judgment
LivingEM: which is unto death
LivingEM: so, although our author's patients may experience some years of emotional health,
LivingEM: and maybe not,
LivingEM: they will eventually die
LivingEM: when one experiences this kind of spiritual ministry through Jesus Christ,
LivingEM: eternal life is available to you
LivingEM: I have told you before, that Satan can perform every miracle that Jesus can perform
LivingEM: with one exception
LivingEM: only Jesus Christ can impart eternal life to a dying man
LivingEM: by translating him from this time line which is death because it is in the serpent image
LivingEM: into the eternal time line, which is in Jehovah's image
LivingEM: so what have we learned today
LivingEM: why would we study such a book?
LivingEM: Well, for one thing, it interesting to know
LivingEM: that when you get down to real rock bottom about who we are
LivingEM: at what our condition is
LivingEM: there is only one spiritual truth
LivingEM: now this foundational truth about who and what we are
LivingEM: is seen from a variety of viewpoints
LivingEM: and every viewpoint other than the Lord Jesus Christ's
LivingEM: keeps us in death
LivingEM: our author spoke about a Osiris,
LivingEM: I cannot remember whether he was a Greek or Roman God
LivingEM: according to our author, Osiris is a dead god
LivingEM: who is waiting to be raised from the dead
LivingEM: according to the way our author described him,
LivingEM: it was obvious to me, that he was talking about able
LivingEM: Abel
LivingEM: you see, the truth about the fall of humanity is everywhere, for those who have eyes to see
LivingEM: and ears to hear
LivingEM: the message in the church today is aliens
LivingEM: to spiritual man
LivingEM: alien to spiritual men
LivingEM: many have been helped by the strength of the Holy Spirit
LivingEM: but have gone no further because the message is death
LivingEM: service to Jesus Christ through the Holy Spirit will bring blessings into your life
LivingEM: in this present world
LivingEM: but, brethren, we are called to be spiritual giants
LivingEM: defenders of the widow and the orphan
LivingEM: and the weak and infirm
LivingEM: not with our physical strength, but with the strength of a righteous mind
LivingEM: which is in the image of the Lord Jesus Christ
LivingEM: ascending to this place of strength in Christ Jesus is no easy thing
LivingEM: Satan will oppose you every step of the way
LivingEM: she will her you with pain as seduced you, if she can, with pleasure
LivingEM: she will stop at nothing to turn you away from the mountain top
LivingEM: the mountain top speaks of the higher centers whereJesus Christ has ascended to
LivingEM: arising into the higher centers is only half the battle
LivingEM: because we must also bring out personality with us
LivingEM: it is Christ Jesus our new man who ascends
LivingEM: our renewed spirit is joined to Him
LivingEM: this is the redemption of our spirit
LivingEM: but pain and pleasure, and every spiritual weakness
LivingEM: is in our personality
LivingEM: initially, Christ Jesus ascends without the personality who was still bound under Satan
LivingEM: when Christ Jesus is fortified through marriage to the Lord Jesus Christ he descends from
LivingEM: the mountain top to rescue his personality
LivingEM: who is guarded by Satan
LivingEM: until our personality is ascended we are a divided man
LivingEM: Christ Jesus in us is married the Lord Jesus Christ
LivingEM: but our personality is still married to the fiery serpent
LivingEM: who consumers her flesh on a regular basis, and generates Satan, the mad dog who guards
LivingEM: her
LivingEM: the ascent of Christ Jesus in the individual
LivingEM: is a warfare that is outward, and away from the powers and principalities of this world
LivingEM: if they didn't try to stop us, we probably would ignore them
LivingEM: but the descent of the fortified Christ Jesus, back into the lower centers
LivingEM: to rescue his personality, is an aggressive offensive
LivingEM: which will never be accomplished, if we our moving in our carnal mind
LivingEM: many are waging spiritual warfare out of their carnal mind
LivingEM: they think they are in the Mind of Christ, but they are deceived
LivingEM: well, one might ask, if I'm destroying Satan's kingdom, is it so bad
LivingEM: if I'm doing it with my carnal mind?
LivingEM: but I say unto you, the man in whom Satan tries to bring down Satan,
LivingEM: that kingdom, or that man will be divided
LivingEM: and his spiritual strength will be lost
LivingEM: because he has attacked his own self
LivingEM: of course, that man well then be as eligible as anyone else to have Christ raised in him
LivingEM: but he weil have lost all of that time
LivingEM: so I tell you, what I have been preaching publicly for ten years, the most important goal
LivingEM: is the exposure of your carnal mind, because this is the only sign that Christ is
LivingEM: manifesting in you
LivingEM: when Christ begins to Flex his muscles, he opposes the carnal mind
LivingEM: it is true that Abel enables us to comprehend the doctrine Christ,
LivingEM: but it is also true that spiritual people outside of Christ can comprehend the doctrine of
LivingEM: Christ
LivingEM: the only sure sign that you are entering into the kingdom of life,
LivingEM: is the exposure of, and warfare against, your own indwelling carnal mind
LivingEM: the Lord command to us is judge your own specific sins
LivingEM: that Christ might be emerge in you, as a victorious warrior
LivingEM: must learn to recognize the carnal mind
LivingEM: which is no easy thing to do
LivingEM: it may be easy to recognize Satan, because she is evil
LivingEM: and most of us can recognize evil thoughts and inclinations when we hear the
LivingEM: but the good side of the carnal mind, which is both good an evil
LivingEM: is very difficult to recognize, yet it is the essential
LivingEM: that we learn how to distinguish between goodness and righteousness
LivingEM: because goodness is passing away and righteousness will endure forever
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LivingEM: and if we cannot tell the difference, and follow goodness, we will be doers of good works
LivingEM: but dead to the kingdom
LivingEM: there is a path that seems right unto man but the end thereof is death
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LivingEM: goodness that replaces Christ, is antichrist
LivingEM: Antichrist replaces Christ
LivingEM: more believers will fall because of goodness than because of evil
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LivingEM: any questions on this message?
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LivingEM: God bless you all
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LivingEM: God bless you all.
LivingEM: See you next week
