The Reasonable Man - Part 1


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LivingEM: Praise The Lord everybody!

LivingEM: There are several ideas in my heart, but the Lord has not given me a clear lead for today's

LivingEM: message. I will open the floor for questions.

LivingEM: Any questions?

LivingEM: Okay. Hang on a minute, while I try to hear from the Lord.

LivingEM: We have talked a lot, recently, about how people moving in mind control

LivingEM: block healthy communication by refusing to answer direct

LivingEM: questions,

LivingEM: A person moving in this kind of mind control will talk about what he wants to talk about

LivingEM: even though what he is saying has no relevance to what the other party has said.

LivingEM: So both parties talk about different issues.

LivingEM: What we have, in these circumstances, is two people talking,

LivingEM: but not to each other.

LivingEM: Each party is trying to make their point, but is also refusing to be influenced by

LivingEM: what the other party has to say.

LivingEM: This, brethren, is the antithesis of communication. It is confusion,

LivingEM: which does spiritual damage.

LivingEM: This kind of confusion inflicts wounds upon the other party's emotional body.

LivingEM: How so?

LivingEM: Confusion is a manifestation of pride.

LivingEM: And pride hurts.

LivingEM: Pride is a warrior spirit.

LivingEM: The Scripture says that pride wages a "holy war."

LivingEM: The principle behind this Scripture is that it is impossible [outside of God of course]

LivingEM: to defeat a man who is emotionally and intellectually sold out to the cause he believes in.

LivingEM: Such a man will die for his beliefs,

LivingEM: even to the point of physical death.

LivingEM: As far as such a man is concerned, he loses the battle only when his opponent succeeds in changing his

LivingEM: mind.

LivingEM: To die with his mind unchanged, therefore, is a victorious death.

LivingEM: His physical body may have died, but the ideas that he covets live on.

LivingEM: This man is called a martyr.

LivingEM: Unfortunately, more often than not, such a fanatical man does not stand for the

LivingEM: righteousness of the Lord Jesus Christ.

LivingEM: More often the man who stands for the righteousness of the Lord Jesus Christ is a reasonable

LivingEM: man.

LivingEM: In such a holy war, the man who stands on the side of reason

LivingEM: is at a disadvantage because of his willingness to consider what the warmonger is saying.

LivingEM: The reasonable man listens to what the martyr says, and tries torespond to it

LivingEM: But when pride is manifesting a holy war, reasonableness is

LivingEM: a weakness.

LivingEM: The martyr, or fanatic, does not listen to what the other person has to say.

LivingEM: He contains all of his strength within himself, letting in no room

LivingEM: for wavering or doubting.

LivingEM: He is a man of war, a spiritual tornado,

LivingEM: energized by the spirit of witchcraft.

LivingEM: The only hope of the reasonable man is a spiritual victory.

LivingEM: And what is a spiritual victory?

LivingEM: A spiritual victory is a shifting

LivingEM: of the battlefront from the physical to the spiritual plane.

LivingEM: In a verbal debate such as I have described above, the

LivingEM: focus of the battle is in the physical plane,

LivingEM: and the war is one of words and ideas,

LivingEM: with no overt acknowledgment of the spiritual forces behind the words.

LivingEM: The two men appear to be equal.

LivingEM: [I have in mind TV interview programs.]

LivingEM: They are equally educated.

LivingEM: Equally experienced.

LivingEM: Equally charismatic.

LivingEM: Equal in emotional strength.

LivingEM: But, brethren, the truth is that the spirit that lies is stronger than

LivingEM: the human spirit that tells the truth.

LivingEM: Why? Does anybody know?

LivingEM: This is why.

LivingEM: In any encounter between two men there is more operating than meets the eye.

LivingEM: Every man speaks out of a mind,

LivingEM: and every mind is ruled by a spirit,

LivingEM: and every human spirit is married to a ruling spirit, which exists beyond his individual person.

LivingEM: Men are spiritual plants growing out of the spiritual soil of the personality,

LivingEM: and every plant has roots.

LivingEM: What is not seen, is the root that an individual man is joined to.

LivingEM: It is the energy of the ruling spirit flowing through the man's spiritual roots,

LivingEM: that determines the victory of what appears to be a verbal debate.

LivingEM: Humanity is fallen,

LivingEM: and Satan is the ruling spirit of fallen humanity.

LivingEM: Satan's energy flows freely through the man who is sold out to the cause and belief

LivingEM: systems that are generated by Leviathan

LivingEM: the God of this world, and of mortal humanity.

LivingEM: Satan restricts her flow of energy through the men who are not aligned with her ideas.

LivingEM: Therefore, for a man who is speaking forth a righteous cause to prevail over

LivingEM: a man who is promoting Satan's cause --

LivingEM: no matter how intelligent he is,

LivingEM: or how educated he is,

LivingEM: or how charismatic he is,

LivingEM: or how personalable he is --

LivingEM: he must be able to draw upon SPIIRTUAL POWER which is beyond himself.

LivingEM: Education, charisma, and personality, will not overcome the man who is arguing for

LivingEM: Satan's cause.

LivingEM: That is why the Scripture calls Leviathan [pride's] war a holy war.

LivingEM: Leviathan stirs Satan up against Christ, the Holy One,

LivingEM: and against the ideas and principles set forth by the Holy One,

LivingEM: The only hope of the man who is speaking the righteous ideas of the Holy One, to defeat

LivingEM: the man who is debating dishonestly by avoiding the issue and changing the subject,

LivingEM: is for the Spirit of Christ to enter into the battle.

LivingEM: But this is no easy thing, because Satan within the man

LivingEM: standing for righteousness, as well as within Satan's servant, will

LivingEM: war against the Spirit of Christ.

LivingEM: In most instances, the Spirit of Christ will defeat Satan, only

LivingEM: when the channel, vessel, man, that He is flowing through,

LivingEM: stops fighting in his own strength.

LivingEM: Why?

LivingEM: Because to fight in your own strength stirs up Satan.

LivingEM: When we fight in our own strength, we fight with Satan's energy,

LivingEM: because Satan and Leviathan are the Tree of the

LivingEM: Knowledge of Good and Evil.

LivingEM: Yes. The man who fights in his own strength -- even when he fights for righteous causes --

LivingEM: fights with Satan's strength from the good side of the Tree of the Knowledge

LivingEM: of Good and Evil, and the man who fights for the unrighteous cause,

LivingEM: fights from the evil side of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.

LivingEM: But do not think that this is what Jesus was talking about when He said "a

LivingEM: house divided cannot stand."

LivingEM: Jesus was talking about the human spirit of a man departing from

Satan and joining with

LivingEM: Christ Jesus.

LivingEM: Satan in one man fights against Satan in another man all of the time,

LivingEM: and the only one who loses is the personality that is defeated or destroyed in the process.

LivingEM: But Satan does not care, because she knows that Leviathan is continually birthing new

LivingEM: personalities into the visible world.

LivingEM: I said earlier that the only way to defeat [in argument] a man who is energized by unclean

LivingEM: spiritual power, is for the Spirit of Christ to break through Satan's defenses in the

LivingEM: man who is standing for righteousness, and the only way this can happen,

LivingEM: is if the personality of that man lays hold of his carnal mind

LivingEM: and steps out of the way of the Spirit of Christ.

LivingEM: The Spirit of Christ will not fight to be heard. He must be

LivingEM: invited to speak, and the invitation takes the form of silence.

LivingEM: Matt. 10:19 -

LivingEM: "But when they deliver you up,

LivingEM: take no thought of what or how ye shall speak,

LivingEM: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak."

LivingEM: The Spirit of Christ rises in the personality when she silences the carnal mind by refusing to speak her thoughts.

LivingEM: James 4:7-

LivingEM: "Submit yourselves therefore to God,

LivingEM: resist the Devil and she will flee from you,"

LivingEM: verse 8 -

LivingEM: "Draw night to God, and he will draw nigh to you.

LivingEM: Cleanse your hands YE SINNERS [the people in whom Christ is rising]

LivingEM: and purify your heart [centers] ye double minded."

LivingEM: Why does James relate doublemindedness to the heart center?

LivingEM: Does anyone know?

LAMB4114: two parts of the heart

LivingEM: Close.

LivingEM: If Christ is grafted in you, there are two minds in the heart center.

LivingEM: Actually, there are two heart centers,

LivingEM: the one in the counterfeit timeline and the one in the true timeline.

LivingEM: The personality is "dwelling with" or "married to" both of those minds,

LivingEM: therefore she is impure because of adultery.

LivingEM: The Greek word translated "cleanse" can be translated,

LivingEM: to "purge," or to "remove."

LivingEM: Remember that most Hebrew words can be translated positively and negatively.

LivingEM: The positive translation applies to the Christ Mind, and the negative translation

LivingEM: applies to the Carnal Mind.

LivingEM: So, now that we know that the word "doubleminded" is talking about

LivingEM: two minds, we can translate the Greek word translated "cleanse" twice, once for the

LivingEM: Christ Mind and once for the Carnal Mind.

LivingEM: James is saying, cleanse your personality which is

LivingEM: joined to your Christ Mind, by disentangling her from your

LivingEM: Carnal Mind. Let your whole personality cleave to your Christ Mind, and let your Carnal

LivingEM: Mind, or your "land" remain unmarried.

LivingEM: Is. 62:4 - "....And the land of your personality will be called

LivingEM: Beulah..."

LivingEM: Beulah means "to be master," or "to have dominion."

LivingEM: The personality that is joined to the Mind of Christ has dominion over, or is master over,

LivingEM: the whole creation. The spiritual principle here is that the man whose personality is fully joined to

LivingEM: Christ Jesus will have dominion over nature.

LivingEM: That is, over the animals, over the trees and plants,

LivingEM: and over the powers and principalities who have manifested them.

LivingEM: Back to James 4:9 -

LivingEM: "Be afflicted and mourn and weep ..."

LivingEM: Do you think the Lord wants us to be unhappy? Not so!

LivingEM: The Greek word translated "afflicted" means,

LivingEM: "to realize one's own misery."

LivingEM: In other words, come out of darkness.

LivingEM: Brethren, the only way we can realize the extent of the misery we are in, is to get a revelation of

LivingEM: the life that is available to us in Christ Jesus.

LivingEM: James is saying, "when you perceive the vision of what you can be in Christ, you will realize how miserable you really are."

LivingEM: Jesus said something like that in the Book of Revelation:

LivingEM: Rev 3:17 -

Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked (KJV)

LivingEM: Pro. 29:18 -

LivingEM: "Where there is no vision the people perish."

LivingEM: The Greek word translated "mourn" means

LivingEM: "to feel," or "experience grief."

LivingEM: This means to come out of denial in your emotions.

LivingEM: To be afflicted means to come out of spiritual denial, or spiritual blindness,

LivingEM: and the word "mourn" means to come out of emotional denial.

LivingEM: The Greek word translated "weep" means "to express your painful emotions out loud."

LivingEM: Brethren, when see the vision of what our life should be like, you will

LivingEM: experience pain in your emotions and express that pain with

LivingEM: deep wailing.

LivingEM: If you are a Christian and you are happy with the life of this world,

LivingEM: you have not seen the vision that Jehovah "imagined."

LivingEM: We are not yet what He has said we will be. It is Jesus' job to bring

LivingEM: us into line with Jehovah's vision for humanity,

LivingEM: Back to verse 9 -

LivingEM: "Let your laughter be turned to mourning,

LivingEM: and your joy to heaviness."

LivingEM: Does the Lord want us to be miserable?

LivingEM: Does he want us to walk around with the appearance of sadness,

LivingEM: so that we should look pious in the eyes of other men?

LivingEM: Not so!!

LivingEM: James is saying that when we see the vision of what we are supposed to be,

LivingEM: and compare it to what we are IN OUR MIND,

LivingEM: the things that make us laugh now, will not be funny to us anymore,

LivingEM: and the things that make us calm [joy]

LivingEM: will not calm us any more.

LivingEM: The Greek word translated "joy" can be translated "calm delight."

LivingEM: Only Christ Jesus can truly calm us. The things of this world that calm us have to be repeated over and over again, or we lose our peace of mind.

LivingEM: When you see the vision, brethren, of what we are supposed to be,

LivingEM: and still can be,

LivingEM: nothing will satisfy you but the Spirit of Christ and the activities that He engages in

LivingEM: Verse 10 -

LivingEM: "Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord and He will lift you up."

LivingEM: The Greek word translated "humble" means "to bring yourself low," or "humiliate yourself."

LivingEM: It is the unfortunate carnal understanding of this word that has led many

LivingEM: to physically and emotionally damage themselves.

LivingEM: In the context of the Scripture, this word means to bring your Carnal Mind low, so that your

LivingEM: Christ Mind can rise and cover her over.

LivingEM: John 8:6 -

LivingEM: "But Jesus stooped down, and with His finger wrote on the ground ..."

LivingEM: The man Jesus, the personality, stood aside so that the Spirit of Christ

LivingEM: which was within him could reach forth to the adulterous woman and

LivingEM: engrave her with the nature of Christ.

LivingEM: The man Jesus humbled Himself,

LivingEM: and Christ Jesus, the glory of God, manifested, or flowed through Him.

LivingEM: Back to verse 10 -

LivingEM: "And he shall lift you up....

LivingEM: When we humble ourselves, brethren, so that the Spirit of Christ can

LivingEM: flow through us, we shall ascend into the brow center of the true timeline,

LivingEM: and become a supernatural man.

LivingEM: So how do we humble ourselves in the sight of the Lord?

LivingEM: First of all Christ must be formed in you.

LivingEM: We cannot submit to Christ if he is not in us.

LivingEM: This is how we humble ourselves, brethren:

LivingEM: Verse 11 -

LivingEM: "Speak not evil one of another,

LivingEM: He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother,

LivingEM: speaketh evil of the law,

LivingEM: and judgeth the law,

LivingEM: but if thou judge the law,

LivingEM: thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.

LivingEM: There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and destroy, who art thou

LivingEM: who judgest another?"

LivingEM: The lawgiver, brethren, is Christ Jesus.

LivingEM: When we judge out of our carnal mind, we sin against our brother.

LivingEM: When we talk about someone's sin with our Carnal Mind,

LivingEM: we destroy that person and are guilty of murder.

LivingEM: Christ Jesus is able to destroy and save, but the Carnal Mind just destroys.

LivingEM: When the Christ Mind wounds someone with the truth about themself,

LivingEM: He is not a murderer because He builds them anew in His own image,

LivingEM: When we reveal someone's sins with our Carnal Mind, we tear down, but there is no power

LivingEM: to rebuild. Therefore, we are a murder in God's eyes.

LivingEM: This whole study is an outgrowth of our discussion on ungodly

LivingEM: debates

LivingEM: and how they are really spiritual battles.

LivingEM: Brethren, when we debate with a closed mind, we debate by the

LivingEM: power of Satan.

LivingEM: When we refuse to see the other person's side, and consider it honestly, we fight

LivingEM: an unfair spiritual battle which is generated by Satan's strength.

LivingEM: Matt 7:3 -

LivingEM: "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye,

LivingEM: but considereth not the beam that is in thine own eye?"

LivingEM: Verse 4 -

LivingEM: "Or wilt thou say to thy brother,

LivingEM: let me pull out the mote out of thine eye,

LivingEM: and behold, a beam is in thine own eye."

LivingEM: Verse 5 -

LivingEM: "Thou hypocrite,

LivingEM: first cast out the beam out of thine own eye,

LivingEM: and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote of thy

LivingEM: brother's eye."

LivingEM: Verse 6 -

LivingEM: "Give not that which is holy to the dogs...."

LivingEM: Who is the dog? Who is holy - anyone?

LivingEM: Christ is the Holy One, and the human spirit who is joined to Satan in mortal man, is the dog.

LivingEM: The Scriptural significance of the word "dog" is "male homosexual prostitute." The fallen human spirit has become Leviathan's harlot. Satan and Leviathan are possessing the spiritual authority of the human spirit [Elohim's breath], and using him to rule over the bestial part of the creation.

LivingEM: Rev 17:3 -

So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.(KJV)

LivingEM: Rev 17:1 -
And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: (KJV)

LivingEM: Back to Matt. 7:6 -

Don't turn your human spirit who is being joined to Christ in you, back to Satan.

LivingEM: How do we turn our human spirit over to Satan?

LivingEM: When we agree with our Carnal Mind, our human spirit flows back into our Carnal Mind,

LivingEM: the Carnal Mind sacrifices the developing Christ within us to Leviathan, and Satan Consumes Him.

LivingEM: But, glory to God, the Lord Jesus keeps raising Christ from the dead.

LivingEM: Do you hear it, brethren?

LivingEM: When you judge your brother without seeing what you have done, you are

LivingEM: judging out of your Carnal Mind, which sends your human spirit back into spiritual homosexual bondage to Leviathan. Christ is formed from the union of the Holy Spirit and the human spirit, so Christ dissolves when the human spirit flows into the Carnal Mind.

LivingEM: Continuing with Matt. 7:6 -

LivingEM: ".... neither cast your pearls before swine ...."

LivingEM: The context of the Interlinear text indicates that the negative particle translated "neither"

LivingEM: should be translated "Leviathan."

LivingEM: Don't let Christ, the Holy One, revert into Leviathan's homosexual prostitute [the dog],

LivingEM: "and cast your pearls in front of the swine...."

LivingEM: Christ is our pearl of great price. In the natural world, pearls

LivingEM: are formed when a single grain of sand miraculously finds it

LivingEM: its way into the soft, interior part of an oyster.

LivingEM: Oysters dwell on the ocean bottom.

LivingEM: Satan is the ocean, the oyster shell is Cain, the conscious part of the Carnal Mind which

LivingEM: keeps us from the spiritual life,

LivingEM: and the grain of sand is the seed of the Holy Spirit.

LivingEM: Christ grows within the hard shell of the conscious part of our carnal mind, which is under

LivingEM: Satan's dominion.

LivingEM: The swine is the fiery serpent.

LivingEM: So, don't turn the developing Christ in you back into Leviathan's spiritual homosexual prostitute [dog], but insert [cast] Christ into the fiery serpent.

LivingEM: You may remember from recent teachings that the fiery serpent is connectedto herself and to Leviathan in a circular formation [Message # 451 - Part 4]. Christ Jesus breaks the fiery serpent away from Leviathan and then from herself, and joins Himself to her in a string formation. ([Illustrations from Message # 451 - Part 4: "2" and "3".]

LivingEM: So, don't turn the developing Christ in you back into Leviathan's spiritual homosexual prostitute [dog], but insert [cast] Christ into the fiery serpent, if you want to avert your Carnal Mind from rising to the surface, and trampling Christ under her feet again.

LivingEM: Then Jesus goes on to say that there is no reason to mistreat

LivingEM: you brother because Christ Jesus will supply all of your needs.

LivingEM: That is, your emotional and spiritual needs, as well as your material needs.

LivingEM: The spiritual principle underlying Jesus' words is that

LivingEM: we do this evil -- what evil?

LivingEM: We judge our brother without seeing our own sins,

LivingEM: because our own needs are not met.

LivingEM: Hurt people, hurt other people.

LivingEM: Emotionally and spiritually satisfied people are the kindest people around.

LivingEM: Hurtful people are unsatisfied people.

LivingEM: Rom. 2:1 -

LivingEM: "Therefore thou art inexcusable,

LivingEM: O, man, whosoever thou art that judgest,

LivingEM: For wherein thou judgest another, thou condenmnest thyself,

LivingEM: for thou that judgest doest the same things,"

LivingEM: Verse 2-

LivingEM: "But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth,"

LivingEM: against them which commit such things,

LivingEM: Comment: The judgment of God will surely fall on those who

LivingEM: do these things. If the person confesses and repents it will be the White Throne Judgment,

LivingEM: if not, it will be the judgment mediated by Satan.

LivingEM: Verse 3 -

LivingEM: "And thinkest thou this, O, man, that judgest them that do such things,

LivingEM: and doest the same,

LivingEM: that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?"

LivingEM: Verse 4 -

LivingEM: "Or do you despise the riches of His goodness,

LivingEM: and forebearance and longsuffering,

LivingEM: not knowing that the goodness of God is leading you to repentance,"

LivingEM: Comment:

LivingEM: Do you think you are not guilty of these same things because God's

LivingEM: grace has kept the judgment from falling on you while He

LivingEM: leads you to repentance?

LivingEM: Verse 5 -

LivingEM: "But the stubbornness [hardness] of your heart, and your lack of

LivingEM: repentance has amassed anger against yourself in the Day of Judgment,

LivingEM: so that the righteousness of God may be revealed in you, who will render to every man according to his deeds.

LivingEM: This verse is talking about the sowing and reaping judgment.

LivingEM: You think that you are innocent because judgment hasn't fallen on you in all

these years that you are serving the Lord, but you shall reap what you have sown when Christ Jesus appears in you.

LivingEM: Christ Jesus is the mediator of the White Throne Judgment, who judges our sins when He appears in us.

LivingEM: Verse 7 -

LivingEM: "To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for

LivingEM: glory and honor and immortality, which is eternal life,"

LivingEM: Verse 8 -

LivingEM: "But to them that are contentious and do not obey the truth,

LivingEM: but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath."

LivingEM: Comment: Those who live out of their Carnal Mind while Christ is formed in them

LivingEM: Verse 9 -

LivingEM: "Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil,

LivingEM: of the Jew first and also of the Gentile,"

LivingEM: Comment:

LivingEM: The "Jew" is everyone who is living out of Christ.

LivingEM: The Gentile, for the purposes of this Scripture, is the man

LivingEM: that Christ is formed in, who is still living out of his Carnal Mind.

LivingEM: Vere 10 -

LivingEM: "But glory, honor and peace to every man that worketh good,

LivingEM: to the Jew first and also to the Gentile."

LivingEM: Comment:

LivingEM: The significance here is that the man that Christ is formed in will come under

LivingEM: judgment, one way or the other. Either from Christ Jesus or from Satan,

LivingEM: depending on whether or not they submit to the correction that reforms

LivingEM: our personality into the image of Christ.

LivingEM: When Christ comes forth, He does "good."

LivingEM: This is not the "good" of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil,

LivingEM: but the "good" that Jesus did,

LivingEM: the good works that proceed forth from a righteous mind,

LivingEM: the "good" that produces eternal life.

LivingEM: Verse 11 -

LivingEM: "For there is no respect of persons with God."

LivingEM: Verse 12 -

LivingEM: "For as many as have sinned

LivingEM: out of their Carnal Mind, not knowing the Jewish law

LivingEM: shall have their Carnal Mind marred [perish] even though

LivingEM: they didn't know the law,"

LivingEM: Paul is saying that those who have done good works, without ever being exposed to the Jewish Law, will be judged by Satan's judgment, and have Christ formed in them.

LivingEM: "And as many who know the Jewish Law shall be judged by the law."

LivingEM: Comment:

LivingEM: The spiritual significance here, brethren, is that everyone who does good will be judged

LivingEM: whether they know the law or not.

LivingEM: Verse 13 -

LivingEM: "Because the hearers of the law are not justified before God,

LivingEM: but the doers of the law shall be justified."

LivingEM: Comment:

LivingEM: Only Christ Jesus can keep the law. If you choose to live out of your Carnal Mind while Christ is formed in you,

LivingEM: you will come under judgment.

LivingEM: It makes no difference whether you have Christ or not,

LivingEM: or whether you know the law or not,

LivingEM: Satan mediates the judgment upon everyone who is not

LivingEM: living out of Christ.

LivingEM: Christ Jesus is the mediator of the White Throne Judgment. He judges only those who are living out of Christ,

LivingEM: because if you are living out of your carnal mind, Christ, the one who judges your sins with mercy, is covered over.

LivingEM: Therefore, only Satan is available to judge your sins.

LivingEM: Verse 14 -

LivingEM: "For when Gentiles which have not the law, do by nature the things

LivingEM: contained in the law, these having not the law, are a law unto themselves,"


LivingEM: Paul is talking about the Spiritual Law of God. Some people have an innate knowledge of what is right and wrong. The law is for the man who cannot discern the difference between the two.

LivingEM: 1 Tim 1:9-10 -

"9 - Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

"10 - For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;" (KJV)

LivingEM: Rom. 2:15 -

LivingEM: "Which show the work of the law written in their hearts,

LivingEM: their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts

LivingEM: the meanwhile accusing or excusing one another."

LivingEM: Comment:

LivingEM: The spiritual significance of this verse is that people who do good, never having heard the Jewish Law,

LivingEM: will reap the good things of this world, but they cannot reap righteousness

LivingEM: from the good seed of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.

LivingEM: The phrase "accusing or excusing one another" means that

LivingEM: these people who do the good works of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil,

LivingEM: are incapable of ministering the true rehabilitative mercy of Christ

LivingEM: Jesus, because Christ is not in them.

LivingEM: Therefore, their good works fall short of perfection, and they either make excuses for the

LivingEM: person's sin, that is, they justify their sin,

LivingEM: or accuse and condemn the sinner.

LivingEM: Only Christ Jesus has the power to call sin what it is

LivingEM: without condemnation,

LivingEM: and then bring a change of nature.

LivingEM: There are people in the world today who appear to be non-judgmental

LivingEM: in their attitudes and words, but in reality they are excusing the person's sins.

LivingEM: Take President Clinton, for example.

LivingEM: His supporters will tell you that what he did was wrong,

LivingEM: but they seek to excuse him from the consequences of his behavior.

LivingEM: There must be a consequence for ungodly behavior.

LivingEM: When the carnal mind brings judgment, those consequences are

LivingEM: destructive,

LivingEM: but when Christ Jesus brings judgment, the consequences are

LivingEM: restoration and true spiritual growth.

LivingEM: Verse 16 -

LivingEM: "In the day when God shall judge the hidden sins of the heart [secrets]

of men by Jesus Christ,

LivingEM: according to my Gospel."

LivingEM: Comment:

LivingEM: The unstated suggestion here is that the men who don't know the Law,

LivingEM: but do the good works of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil,

LivingEM: will receive Christ, who will equip them to do their heart's desire,

the truly good works of God.

LivingEM: This is what happened to Cornelius, of the Italian band.

LivingEM: The sown seeds of the good side of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil

LivingEM: will reap the Holy Spirit, who is the opportunity to have the

Tree of Life growing in our garden. The personality is a spiritual garden.

LivingEM: Verse 17 -

LivingEM: "Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law,

LivingEM: and makest they boast of God,"

LivingEM: Comment:

LivingEM: You think you will inherit eternal life because you have a relationship

LivingEM: with God through the law.

LivingEM: Verse 18 -

LivingEM: "And knowest his will,

LivingEM: and approvest the things that are more excellent,"

LivingEM: Comment:

LivingEM: "Approvest" means "to discern."

LivingEM: "You recognize the high spiritual [excellent] things of God.

LivingEM: because you have been instructed by the law."

LivingEM: Comment:

LivingEM: This is a gift that you have received because you have had the privilege

LivingEM: of being instructed in the law.

LivingEM: Verse 19 -

LivingEM: "And believe that you are a guide to the blind and a light to those

LivingEM: who are in darkness,"

LivingEM: Paul is being sarcastic here. Many in the Church today have this high opinion of themselves, before their sins are ever judged.

LivingEM: Verse 20 -

LivingEM: "You think you are an instructor of the foolish, and a teacher of the spiritual babies,

LivingEM: because you have the form of knowledge and the truth of the law,"

LivingEM: Comment:

LivingEM: The truth is in them, but not growing out of their spiritual being. That is,

LivingEM: they have a knowledge of the law, but have not experienced

LivingEM: living by the spiritual law, which is Christ Jesus, Himself..

LivingEM: Verse 21 -

LivingEM: "Therefore, you who [desire] to teach others, don't you think you should teach yourself first?

LivingEM: "You preach that a man should not steal, but don't you steal?"

LivingEM: Comment: Paul is spiritualizing the law here. Satan is the thief who steals our

potential immortality. When we agree with our Carnal Mind, we are Satan, and are robbing ourselves of eternal life.

LivingEM: Verse 22 -

LivingEM: "You say that a man should not commit adultery, but don't you commit adultery?"

LivingEM: Comment: Paul is still spiritualizing the law here. Every mortal man commits on-going spiritual adultery with Leviathan and the fiery serpent.

Verse 22 -

LivingEM: "You say that you hate idols, but don't you rob the temple [sacrilege]?"

LivingEM: Comment:

LivingEM: The personality is the temple of the Holy Ghost, but the Mind

LivingEM: of Christ is the temple of the Spirit of Christ.

LivingEM: Satan in us steals our human spirit from the temple, the Mind of Christ, when we live out of, or agree with, our Carnal Mind.

LivingEM: Verse 23 -

LivingEM: "Thou that makest thy boast of the law,

LivingEM: Don't you dishonor God by breaking the law, for the name of God is blasphemed through the Gentiles because of you."

LivingEM: The Church dishonors God by not living the law.

LivingEM: Verse 25 -

LivingEM: "For circumcision verily profiteth, if you keep the law,

LivingEM: but if thou be a breaker of the law, your circumcision is made uncircumcision,"

LivingEM: Comment:

LivingEM: Physical circumcision means nothing if you cannot keep the law.

LivingEM: The same principle holds true for the Church today.

LivingEM: The Holy Spirit profits little for the Christian who does not keep the law,

LivingEM: because we cannot keep the law unless we are living out of Christ.

LivingEM: So, if we have received the Holy Spirit, but Christ is not forned in us, or if Christ is formed in us and we do not live out of Him,

LivingEM: in the hour that the gifts pass away, we shall have nothing.

LivingEM: We shall be both childless and without spiritual gifts.

LivingEM: Verse 26 -

"Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his

uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?"

LivingEM: Verse 27 -

"And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?"

LivingEM: Comment: We are judged by comparison. The two witness company will

judge us by comparing us to Jesus, and we are also found to be spiritual phonies when our thoughts and behavior is less moral than the man who is ignorant of the law of God.

LivingEM: Verse 28 -

LivingEM: "For he is not a Jew [or Christian], who is one outwardly,"

LivingEM: Verse 29 -

LivingEM: "But he is Jew who is one inwardly,

LivingEM: and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit and not in the letter,"

LivingEM: Comment:

LivingEM: Our Carnal Mind must be circumcised off of Christ for us to be a true spiritual Jew/Christian.

LivingEM: End of Commentary.

LivingEM: Does anyone here realize that judgment fell today?

Myprecous1: yes

LivingEM: Judgment fell today.

DANIEL42: yes

LivingEM: I tell you all of a truth that I had no idea I would be preaching this today.

LivingEM: I didn't even finish the message I started. Lord willing, we will finish it next week.

LivingEM: The time is short, brethren. Look up, for your salvation draweth nigh.

LivingEM: I suggest you ask the Lord to help you cooperate with Him, so that your circumcision can be

LivingEM: as painless as possible. But, in any event, Lord willing,

LivingEM: we will all give birth to the manchild, and rise into eternal life.

LivingEM: Are there any questions?

LivingEM: Father, in the Name of Jesus, I pray for everyone who reads

LivingEM: this transcript.

LivingEM: I forgive their sins, Lord, and pray that Christ should appear in them.

LivingEM: May your public appearance come quickly, Lord Jesus,

LivingEM: and may your deliverance be manifested to the earth.

LivingEM: May we all be overcomers, Lord, with your help.

LivingEM: May the pearl of great price cover the swine, in us Lord,

LivingEM: and may we arise in your Name.

LivingEM: May the glory be unto you forever, Lord, Jesus,

LivingEM: who has delivered us from our own sin nature, by faith,

LivingEM: and may this deliverance become a reality, Lord, that we may serve

LivingEM: you by helping the next wave of men who are to ascend.

LivingEM: Have mercy on us, Lord, Jesus, and give us the victory over the evil one.

LivingEM: Let your Name be magnified, Lord, Jesus. Let Jehovah's thought form manifest

LivingEM: and live forever. Amen and Amen.

LivingEM: God bless you all. I exhort you to walk in His footsteps.

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Pastor Vitale's Bio

Sheila R. Vitale is the founding teacher and pastor of Living Epistles Ministries and Christ-Centered Kabbalah. In that capacity, she expounds upon the Torah (Scripture) and teaches Scripture through a unique Judeo-Christian lens.

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