Jesus Forsaken? (Matt. 27:46)

09/13/00 

Scriptures Commented On (In Order Of Appearance): (Matt. 27:46) ALT, Matt. 27:46, I Tim.6:15-16, I Tim. 1:17, Matt. 27:47, Matt. 27:48-49, John 19:28-30, John 4:10, John 19:30

<LivingEM> Praise the Lord! Are there any questions or comments?

<OVERCOMER> Yes. You said in a recent on-line meeting that Eli means ascend.

What was it that Jesus meant when He said, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?

Did He actually say, ascend, ascend, and, if so, what did that do for him?

Matt 27:46, And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? (KJV)

<LivingEM> Jesus is saying in this Scripture, Elijah, the ascended one.

According to the Greek, lama means what.

Does anyone know the esoteric meaning of the word what?

<OVERCOMER> Elohim?

<Jsngsng> It means Jehovah.

<LivingEM> Yes, Elohim.

Who, means Jehovah, Jsngsng.

<LivingEM> Who is the great God, and what is He doing?

<LivingEM> It was not necessary to answer at all, but since you have answered incorrectly, please change your response and answer correctly.

<LivingEM> Who is the great God, Jehovah, and what is Elohim, Jehovah's active aspect.

Jesus was saying, Elijah, Elohim's ascended one, depart from me so that my humanity can die.

Who was regenerated in Jesus?

Somebody must know who was regenerated in Jesus.

<OVERCOMER> Adam.

<LivingEM> Yes, Adam was regenerated in Jesus.

And who was Adam married to within the man Jesus?

<OVERCOMER> Elijah.

<Myprecous1> Elijah.

<LivingEM> Yes. The glorified Elijah was married to the regenerated Adam within the man Jesus.

What effect did this marriage have upon Jesus' life of in the days of His flesh?

<LAMB> It made Jesus, God in the flesh.

<LivingEM> This is true, Lamb, but how does Jesus being God in the flesh affect His life in the earth?

<OVERCOMER> He was supernatural.

<IsaiahSixty1> Gave him power.

<OVERCOMER> And He could not die.

<LivingEM> And how, concerning Jesus' crucifixion, does the fact that Jesus could not die, affect His life in the flesh?

<LAMB> He was not subject to death unless He chose to give up His life.

<LivingEM> Yes, Jesus could not die.

What prevented Jesus from dying?

<LAMB> Elijah within Him.

<LivingEM> Very close, Lamb.

Jesus could not die as long as the glorified Elijah was a unity with Adam, who was regenerated within, and married to, the man, Jesus.

So, if Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani means, Elijah, Elohim's ascended one, forsake me, what was Jesus asking for?

<LAMB> For Elijah to depart from Him.

<OVERCOMER> To die?

<LivingEM> Yes, Jesus was asking the glorified Elijah to separate from the regenerated Adam within Jesus, so that the man Jesus, the Son of Man, could die.

Jesus never said that the SON OF GOD would die.

Jesus said that the SON OF MAN would be crucified and die.

The phrase son of man, means the son of Adam, speaking, in this case, about the regenerated Adam within the man, Jesus.

Jehovah addressed all of the Old Testament prophets as the son of Adam. So, if Adam, or Christ Jesus in this dispensation, is regenerated within you, you are the son of Adam, because the offspring of the immortal one is within you. But you, yourself, are not immortal, until the glorified Jesus Christ marries Christ Jesus within you, and severs Cain, your mortal personality from Leviathan.

True immortality is attained only through union with the immortal one (1 Cor. 6:17). I say true immortality, because there is a counterfeit immortality.

What is the counterfeit immortality?

<OVERCOMER> In Leviathan's timeline, there is an immortality that lasts for this age.

<DANIEL42> Ascension in Leviathan's timeline.

<LivingEM> Yes, Satan can grant us immortality, but Satan's immortality lasts only as long as this divided age endures.

1 Tim 6:15, Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen. (KJV)

1 Tim 1:17, Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen. (KJV)

Matt 27:47, Some of them that stood there, when they heard that, said, This man calleth for Elias. (KJV)

Matt 27:48, And straightway one of them ran, and took a spunge, and filled it with vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink,

49 The rest said, Let be, let us see whether Elias will come to save him. (KJV)

<LivingEM> Why do you think someone responded to Jesus' cry by giving Him a drink?

John 19:28, After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the Scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.

29 Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth.

30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. (KJV)

<LivingEM> The answer to the question, why did someone give Jesus a drink when he cried out to Elijah to forsake him, is found in another account of the crucifixion.

In Matt 27:48, we see that one man had compassion on Jesus, thinking that Jesus desired a physical drink, but the rest of the men were hard to Jesus' plight, saying, Let be, let us see whether Elias will come to save him.

There are two points of interest in this account.

The first is that only one man had compassion on a suffering human being, and the rest were hard and manifested a mocking spirit.

The second is, why did Jesus say, I thirst? Anybody?

<DANIEL42> He thirsted for the spirit.

<IsaiahSixty1> It was not for physical water.

<Jsngsng> He thirsted for the living water.

<LivingEM> Yes, Jesus was not thirsting for physical water.

Jsngsng, you seem to be in your carnal mind today. Is anything distracting you?

<Jsngsng> No.

<LivingEM> Please explain to us, Jsngsng, what living water is.

<Jsngsng> I thought it to be spirit.

<LivingEM> Please tell us how does that answer the question?

John 4:10, Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.( KJV)

<LivingEM> Jesus was not asking for living water. Jesus already possessed the living water.

I will pray for you, Jsngsng. Father in the name of Jesus, I strengthen Christ Jesus in Jsngsng. and ask that He rise up above her carnal mind, and cover it, because the woman is not permitted to speak in a spiritual meeting. The woman should be silent in the Church.

I want you all to understand that each one of you is in a different spiritual place, and that the Spirit of Christ responds to each of you in accordance with the level that He has already raised you to.

I am dealing with each of you concerning speaking out of your carnal mind at these meetings, as the Lord leads me. For whatever reason, I know not what, the Lord has dealt the heaviest with Jsngsng in this area, but is dealing with the rest of you in this area, more and more.

It is never my intention to embarrass you, but to help you by revealing that your carnal mind is attending this meeting, which is held to instruct Christ within you.

The Lord is most likely to move upon me to say something when the disciple is capable of doing better.

Jsngsng, please read the OLM entitled The Spirit Controlled Meeting (OLM 02/16/00), which is the meeting that the Lord gave wholly over to you for the specific purpose of helping you in this area.

<Jsngsng> OK.

<LivingEM> I have noticed in the transcripts of the last couple of meetings that you were slipping back into this pattern. I believe that this public correction and my prayer will help you to recover any ground that you lost to Leviathan since the victory you took when we preached The Spirit Controlled Meeting.

I break the deaf and dumb curse on your life, Jsngsng, that hinders and fights against your making permanent changes in your attitude and understanding. I also break the curse of passivity.

The Lord just said to you, Jsngsng, great grace is upon you. I believe this means that if you respond to this correction with a humble spirit, the power of God is present to help you in this area. God bless you.

The question is,

What was Jesus thirsting for?

Jesus had living water, the life of the Spirit of Elijah was already within Him.

<OVERCOMER> To go up into glorification?

<IsaiahSixty1> To be reunited fully with Jehovah.

John 19:30, When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. (KJV)

<LivingEM> I have no revelation concerning the vinegar, so I will drop the issue until I hear from the Lord about it.

Overcomer and Isaiah, the answer should have something to do with water.

What is the esoteric significance of the word, water?

<LAMB> Energy.

<IsaiahSixty1> Power.

<LivingEM> Yes, water signifies energy and power.

Well, if Jesus already had the living water, Elohim's energy, within Him,

What energy was Jesus thirsting for? And

Was Jesus the one who was thirsting?

If it wasn't Jesus thirsting, who else could it have been?

Who else could have been speaking through the mouth of the man Jesus?

<LAMB> Elijah.

<DANIEL42> Adam.

<myprecous1> Adam.

<LivingEM> That's a good guess, Lamb, but Elijah has already forsaken the man Jesus, his house.

Yes, the answer is Adam..

So, if it was Adam who was thirsting, what was Adam thirsting for?

What was the regenerated Adam, within the man Jesus, thirsting for?

<DANIEL42> Thirsting for the spirit of Elijah.

<IsaiahSixty1> Power.

<OVERCOMER> Abels.

<Myprecous1> Jehovah, Elohim, the glorified Lord Jesus, Christ, Elijah,

<LivingEM> What does the collective Adam/Christ Jesus consist of?

Yes, Overcomer, Abel is the name of the seeds of Jehovah's spiritual seminal fluid that died when Adam was murdered.

Adam/Christ Jesus consists of Elohim, Jehovah's spiritual seminal fluid, called the breath of life, and dust.

Adam consists of seed, water/energy and dust.

After Adam's death, the seed of Adam's life is called Abel, and the dust is called???

<OVERCOMER> Cain.

<Jsngsng> Cain.

<LivingEM> Yes, after Adam's death, the seed of Elohim's spiritual seminal fluid is called Abel, and the dust is called Cain.

What happened to Adam's water/energy?

It was absorbed by the dust to form the female clay animal called Cain.

So, when Adam says that he is thirsty, is he desiring seeds, water/energy, or dust?

<OVERCOMER> Water/energy.

<DANIEL42> Water/energy.

<IsaiahSixty1> Energy.

<LivingEM> Yes, Adam who has been regenerated within the man Jesus, is thirsty for the rest of Elohim's water/energy that is distributed throughout mortal humanity.

Jesus, the Christ, is the mixing pot where Elijah's glorified seed is mixed with Mary's mortal seed. And, so, Jesus, the Christ, became the spiritual hybrid seed that can successfully graft to the dead Abel within mortal humanity.

So we see that the regenerated Adam in the man Jesus, then, was different than the pristine Adam.

Elijah, Adam, and the mortal side of Jesus, are one new creature, the beginning of the creation of God (Rev. 3:14).

So the regenerated Adam within the man Jesus, was thirsting for the whole of Elohim's waters/energy that Jehovah breathed into the creation in the beginning.

Why was Adam within the man Jesus desiring Elohim's waters/energy, rather than Elohim's seed?

<OVERCOMER> Because the seed was already there, Abel. It was the waters that were stolen?

<LivingEM> No, both the waters/energy and the seed were stolen.

<OVERCOMER> Because with the waters he could have the power to create a new creation?

<LivingEM> Adam knows that he can never recover Jehovah's royal seed until he possesses the power to defeat Satan and Leviathan, the defender of Cain, who guards Abel, the children of the Kingdom of God.

Are there any questions or comments on this study?

Did you have another question, Overcomer?

<OVERCOMER> Yes.

<LivingEM> OK, one more.

<OVERCOMER> You said that Michael grafted to the buried Abel in Mary's ovum, could you explain this a little more? My understanding is that Michael grafts to Abel in the heart (4th) energy center of the spiritual being of the person.

<LivingEM> I only respond to specific questions, Overcomer, so your first question is unacceptable, but I will respond to your second question.

What is the name of Cain and Abel when they are engraved with the Dragon's nature?

<DANIEL42> Fiery Serpent.

<OVERCOMER> Leviathan.

<LivingEM> Yes, the Fiery Serpent.

And where, in a mortal human being, is the Fiery Serpent planted?

In which energy center?

<DANIEL42> The root (1st) energy center.

<OVERCOMER> Impure (2nd) energy center?

<myprecous1> Impure (2nd) energy center.

<IsaiahSixty1> Impure (2nd) energy center.

<LivingEM> The inactive Fiery Serpent is planted in the root (1st) energy center, where she sleeps until she is aroused.

What energy center is the Fiery Serpent in, in the average mortal man?

<DANIEL42> Belly (3rd) energy center.

<IsaiahSixty1> Belly (3rd) energy center.

<Myprecous1> Belly (3rd) energy center.

<Jsngsng> Belly (3rd) energy center.

<LivingEM> Yes, the Fiery Serpent dwells in the belly (3rd) energy center in the average human being.

Can anyone tell us the name of the heart (4th) energy center as it relates to the Fiery Serpent?

The heart (4th) energy center is the place where the Fiery Serpent???

<Myprecous1> Satan's sea.

<LivingEM> The heart (4th) energy center is the place where the Fiery Serpent marries Leviathan.

The heart (4th) energy center is the marital bed.

So, Abel is woven together with Cain and Leviathan, her husband, in the right side of the heart (4th) energy center.

Which energy center is the most likely choice for Michael to graft to Abel, the right side of the heart (4th) energy center where the Fiery Serpent is woven together with Leviathan, or the belly (3rd) energy center, where Abel is defended by Cain alone?

Will everybody please answer the question.

<OVERCOMER> Belly (3rd) energy center.

<DANIEL42> Heart (4th) energy center.

<Jsngsng> Heart (4th) energy center.

<IsaiahSixty1> Third heart.

<IsaiahSixty1> Sorry

<Myprecous1> Belly (3rd) energy center.

<LivingEM> I will ask the question again.

Is Michael most likely to graft to Abel before the Fiery Serpent is married to Leviathan or after the Fiery Serpent is married to Leviathan?

<OVERCOMER> Before.

<LivingEM> Everyone please answer.

<Myprecous1> After.

<LAMB> Before.

<Jsngsng> Before.

<IsaiahSixty1> Before.

<DANIEL42> After.

<LivingEM> Myprecous and Daniel, what would be the benefit of grafting to Abel after he is married to Leviathan?

<Myprecous1> I see what you are saying, I was wrong.

<LivingEM> What would be the benefit of grafting to Abel before he was married to Leviathan?

<DANIEL42> I was seeing him grafting in the marital bed, the heart (4th) energy center.

<LivingEM> Daniel and Myprecous only, please answer.

<Myprecous1> He would have more power.

<LivingEM> Daniel?

<DANIEL42> Yes?

<DANIEL42> Sorry, I answered above.

<LivingEM> Daniel, what would be the advantage or disadvantage for Michael to graft to Abel in either the heart (4th) energy center or the belly (3rd) energy center?

<DANIEL42> The disadvantage would be that it would be more difficult if Abel was married to Leviathan.

<LivingEM> Daniel, this is true.

So based on this observation, would Michael be more likely to graft to Abel in the belly (3rd) energy center or the heart (4th) energy center?

<DANIEL42> Belly (3rd) energy center, but I had thought Michael did not go below the heart (4th) energy center.

<LivingEM> The glorified Spirit will not go below the heart (4th) energy center, but Christ, the life-saving seed, will go wherever Abel is.

The Alternate Translation of Amos 9:2 says,

Amos 9:2, If they dig themselves into Hell, the spirit of Elijah will snatch them to safety by marrying them in hell, and if they climb up into heaven [that is, Satan's heaven], the spirit of Elijah will force them into submission, while they are in Satan's heaven. (KJV)

<LivingEM> Do you have any questions about this issue, Daniel?

<DANIEL42> No.

<LivingEM> Just like in human reproduction, the male organ penetrates only so far into the female, but the sperm penetrates much further.

Myprecous, who would have more power if Michael were to graft to Abel in the belly (3rd) energy center?

<Myprecous1> Michael.

<LivingEM> Okay. Why would Michael have more power graft to Abel in the belly? .

<Myprecous1> I am not sure that I can answer the question.

<LivingEM> I'm sorry Myprecous, do you know how to scroll the transcript back to see what you said earlier?

<Myprecous1> I think because he is of the Godhead.

<LivingEM> Michael has the same measure of power in the belly (3rd) energy center as he does in the heart (4th) energy center, but what is in the heart (4th) energy center that Michael has to deal with, that is not in the belly (3rd) energy center, Myprecous?

<Myprecous1> Satan.

<LivingEM> Who is Abel marrying in the heart (4th) energy center, Myprecous?

<Myprecous1> Christ Jesus.

<LivingEM> Myprecous, please scroll back and review what we are talking about here, and answer the question whenever you are ready, even if I am talking about something else.

The question is, who is Abel marrying in the heart (4th) energy center, concerning this issue that we are talking about now?

<Myprecous1> Abel would be marrying Leviathan.

<LivingEM> So would it be more difficult for Michael to marry Abel when he is married to Leviathan, or when Abel is unmarried, Myprecous?

<Myprecous1> When he is unmarried.

<LivingEM> Yes.

So, based on all of the knowledge that you have now acquired, Myprecous, is Michael more likely to graft to Abel in the belly (3rd) energy center, or in the heart (4th) center?

<Myprecous1> Heart (4th) energy center.

<LivingEM> Yes, you had the right answer the first time.

Actually, Michael can graft to Abel in the impure (2nd) energy center also.

People who are conscious in the impure (2nd) energy center usually have a problem with immorality, and Christ can graft to the most reprobate people.

I don't know about the root (1st) energy center.

Your question was about Michael grafting to Abel, Overcomer.

Michael only grafts to Abel in the Jew.

Christ grafts to Abel in both the Jew and the Gentile.

Michael cannot graft to Abel in the Gentile.

The reason for this is explained in detail in the 8/23/00 OLM, which went into the mail to you all yesterday, Michael & Christ, The Seed Of Abraham.

Are there any questions or comments concerning Michael/Christ grafting to Abel?

Overcomer, if you would like to rephrase your first question, and make it specific, I will answer your question.

<OVERCOMER> I have never heard that before, that Michael grafted to Mary's ovum. How did he do that?

<LivingEM> Ovum is singular and ova is plural.

Michael did not graft to one of Mary's ovum.

Let me put it this way.

An ovum is the female reproductive cell, which means that a single ovum that exists within an ovary, has many parts to it, just like the human body, which appears to be one whole, but consists of many organs and trillions of cells.

Female mammals have two ovaries, and each single ovary contains many ova. Each ovum contains many parts, including the genetic material that eventually becomes a human being.

It was the glorified Elijah who impregnated Mary, and Elijah had the ability to penetrate into one of Mary's ova and connect with Abel within that ovum.

Every principle that we study exists in every one of our cells. Cain, Abel, Satan, Leviathan, etc., all exist in every one of our cells. And, technically speaking, every one of our cells is capable of regenerating into a whole new human being, just like a tomato seed has the ability to regenerate into a new tomato plant.

This is the principle behind cloning. Cloning theory says that if you have one cell from a human being and you know what to do with it, you can reproduce that human being.

I have known for a long time that Jehovah can decide which one of a woman's ova to call forth to mature into a human being.

In the same manner, the glorified Elijah selected Jesus while he was still an ovum in Mary's ovary, and the glorified Elijah joined with Abel in that ovum, before Jesus was born.

I have told all of you many times that I teach you as the Lord teaches me, and the Lord teaches me every day. So. every day I correct my doctrine in accordance with what the Lord teaches me.

It is necessary to focus on the spiritual principles that the Lord is bringing forth here, such as, some member of the household of God impregnated Mary, rather than the name of that person. This way you will not be discouraged when I tell you that, even though I said that Michael impregnated Mary two or three years ago, I now understand that it was the glorified Elijah who impregnated Mary, and that Michael is a spiritual part of the glorified Elijah.

Michael & Christ, Abraham's Seed explains, in detail, how Michael was imparted to Abel, and matured into Elijah, Jesus, and then Christ.

So Michael, Elijah and Christ are all the same spiritual person in different degrees of maturation.

Please withhold any questions that you have on this issue until you have thoroughly studied Michael & Christ, The Seed Of Abraham (OLM 08/23/00), which you should receive shortly. Michael & Christ, Abraham's Seed is also posted to the web page.

Are there any questions or comments on this last issue that we just discussed?

<OVERCOMER> Just had a comment that if Christ Jesus and Jesus Christ penetrate our physical cells He will give us life and we will not die.

<LivingEM> Please do not hesitate to question me if you think that I have contradicted myself. I will always answer your question, even if I have to say I don't know. More often than not, all that is needed for you to reconcile the issue in your own mind, is an additional piece of information.

Yes, it is true that a unified, or married, Christ Jesus within the individual, and the glorified Jesus Christ, will exist in every cell of our physical body, and the cells where Christ Jesus and the glorified Jesus Christ are married, will not die IF Cain is cut away from Leviathan after the Holy Union takes place.

I continue to pray that Christ will mature in all of you, and cover and penetrate your Fiery Serpent.

The Lord suggests that you review the 10 illustrations of Message #516 - Part 2, Cain & Abel, The Germ Seed Of Our World, the message and where I show how Christ grafts to the dead Abel, ascends into the throat (5th) energy center, and then returns for the dead Abel, to raise him into the throat (5th) energy center also.

# 1, # 2, # 3, # 4, # 5, # 6, # 7, # 8, # 9, # 10.

So it is Christ who grafts to the dead Abel in the belly (3rd) energy center, ascends above Abel, and then returns to the belly (3rd) energy center marry him.

God bless you all. And grace be unto all of you, and especially those who are bravely enduring public correction.

May Christ be revealed in all of you, may you all arise into the fullness of your creative potential in Christ Jesus.

God bless this great nation, and may the Lord Jesus Christ be powerfully present in the presidential campaign and in the election.

May the Lord have mercy on us all, and restore His Name to honor in this great land. May the law of God prevail.

Goodnight everyone.


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