LivingEM: Hello, everybody. Are there any questions or comments today?
LAMB: A comment on Scientology. I watched a program that showed they sued a cult awareness group and won and took over their name and telephone number so that when people called to ask about them, they were actually talking to someone in Scientology. The wolf guarding the chicken coop.
LivingEM: Yes, Scientology is known to be most successful at destroying their opponents through the court system. It is a disgrace that they were able to use the phone number of the cult awareness group. I would imagine that the victim would have to go to court to prevent this, and this is the their strength. Most people and organizations just do not have the money to pursue lawsuits. Some homosexual organizations are pursuing the same tactics, with the Boy Scouts of America, for example.
LivingEM: Does anyone have anything else to say about this issue? Okay, then, we will pursue Hebrews 12:1.
"Wherefore, seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us.
Would anyone like to take a guess at what Paul is saying here? Can anyone tell us what a cloud of witnesses is?
LAMB: Lay aside needless worldly pursuits, reject our carnal reasoning and get on with obeying God. We are the cloud of witnesses along with those who have passed on.
LivingEM: Okay, this is what they teach in the Church world. I will give you the alternate translation of Heb 12:1 first, and then we will discuss what Paul is saying here.
The words inside of [ ] are amplifications. This means that I added these words to the translation. All words that are not in [ ] are alternate translations of the Greek word.
Alternate Translation: And for this reason, the aura of Christ Jesus is compassing about us, who have been curved [into a black hole] for such a long time, so let us put off all of these dark thought forms [who] stand around us on every side, thwarting [the righteous thoughts of Christ], endure Christ Jesus' corrective judgment], and spend our strength pursuing the assembling which has been revealed to us.
The Greek word translated "witnesses," Strong's # 3144, means "martyr," or "witness." The man who is possessed by Christ Jesus is a witness to God's righteousness, because such a man does not die. Christ Jesus is also a martyr because He makes great sacrifices, and suffers much in order to further the Kingdom of God.
Heb 2:10, For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, TO MAKE THE CAPTAIN OF THEIR SALVATION PERFECT THROUGH SUFFERINGS.
The word "witnesses" is plural, because Christ Jesus is appearing in many personalities.
And for this reason, the aura of Christ Jesus is compassing about us, who have been curved [into a black hole] for such a long time....
The Greek word translated "weight," Strong's 3591, means "mass" or "bulk." It comes from Strong's # 43, which means "curve." We know that energy which is curved eventually forms a black hole. The reason for this is that a curve, as opposed to a straight line, eventually forms a closed circle, and, by definition, this is what a black hole is.
Those of you who listen to the recent tapes might remember that Adam's geometrical expression is a parallelogram, and the serpent's geometrical expression of is a curve. And the end of a curve, or a curve which has completed itself, is a circle, or a black hole.
So Paul is saying, let us lay aside the black hole. And, of course, the black hole is speaking about the sin nature. Yet, somehow, the word "weight," does not nearly impact us to the degree that the words "black hole" do.
I think one of the biggest problems in the Church, even among believers who acknowledge that they have the sin nature, is that they really do not understand how serious our condition is. The reason that they do not realize how serious our condition is, is that things are not all that bad down here in hell. But, even more so, most are in denial as to how wicked the sin nature is, because to acknowledge how wicked the sin nature is, is to acknowledge that the spiritual root of mortal man is that wicked.
It is hard to face the truth that the reason that we get sick and die, is because all of humanity is under the judgment of death, according to Jehovah's righteous, spiritual law. Such a judgment is rendered because of our relationship with the fiery serpent within us, who we are all married to in our fallen condition. And because we are married to her, we are equally guilty for all the evil that she does.
The fact that she does much of her evil when we sleep, does not exonerate us.
SOS 5:2 I sleep, but my heart waketh, it is the voice of my beloved that knocketh, saying open to me, my sister, my love ....
Whether we know it or not, we are married to the fiery serpent, and have inherited all of her sins, through marriage.
1 Cor 6:16 What, know ye not that he that is joined to a harlot is one body? For two saith he, shall be one flesh.
All of mortal humanity in a convicted spiritual felon. Therefore, saith the Lord, your own righteousness is as filthy rags. Your church attendance, your prayers for the sick, your rejection of pagan holidays, your casting out demons, your virginity or celibacy, your moral lifestyle, according to the morality of this world, is filthy rags when it comes to your spiritual life. None of these things can keep you from dying. What is the only thing that can keep you from dying? Anyone?
DANIEL42: Marriage of Christ Jesus to the glorified Jesus Christ?
LivingEM: This is true, but anyone who does not know the message for himself, would not understand what you just said. We must have a saviour in the midst of us.
PSALM 29 2: Ascending into the 7th energy center? Full stature?
LivingEM: We must have the Son of Jesus Christ, the man-child, living inside of us.
Yes, what you have said is true, but the man in the street would not understand what you are saying. But perfection is in the 6th center, not the 7th center. Those who are ascended into the 7th center are no long in physical bodies. They are glorified. Ascension into the 6th [brow] center preserves our personality. Permanent ascension into the brow center is perfection, or full stature.
Getting back to what Daniel said, after Christ is formed in us, He must overcome Satan within the individual that He is growing in, and ascend into the heart [4th] center. What happens to Christ when he ascends into the heart center? His name changes to Christ Jesus.
Christ is Abel in this generation. Abel is Adam's root system. Abel grows up into Adam, who is immortal. Christ grows up into Christ Jesus, who is immortal. Well, then, why do people continue to die, even after Christ Jesus in them occupies their heart center?
DANIEL42: Because Christ Jesus in them is not married to Jesus Christ yet?
JSNGSNG: Because they also have their sin nature.
LivingEM: This is true. Christ Jesus within us is immortal, but our personality and physical body are not. When Christ Jesus in the individual marries the glorified Jesus Christ, the personality is saved and the physical body is preserved until it is swallowed into a spiritual body.
Well, if Christ Jesus is immortal, how can you say that He dies if the personality and physical body die before He perfects them? Anybody?
Christ Jesus is a timeline. Do you remember the teaching that the immortals of the Serpent's timeline will die when this timeline is rolled up like a scroll and goes out like a light? In the same manner, the immortal Christ Jesus dies if He does not connect with the glorified Jesus Christ before the physical body that He lives in dies. It is the same thing as saying that the Serpent's timeline swallowed up Christ Jesus. And so it is written,
1 Cor. 15:55, Oh death, where is thy sting, Oh grave, where is thy victory?
Verse 56, The sting of death is sin - this means that sin in the individual, is Satan's legal ground to make us sick and kill us -
and the strength of sin is the law -- this means that Satan has the right to make us sick and kill us because we are violators of Jehovah's Righteous Spiritual Law.
There is no law against a righteous man. Satan could not touch us, if we were truly righteous. This was Jesus' testimony in the days of His flesh,
Jn 14:30 ....for the prince of this world cometh and has nothing in me.
1 Cor 15:57, But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
How does Jesus Christ give us the victory over sin and death? First of all, His Son must be planted in us, and when His Son grows up, He will war against the sin nature which we were born with, and He will show us our sin nature so that we can reject it, and cleave unto Him, our true husband.
Sin is in the way we think, and in the way we relate to other people. Sin is in our attitude towards other people. Sin is not knowing how to do something and being too proud to ask for help. Sin is not recognizing Christ manifesting in another man. How so? The carnal mind cannot recognize Christ, but Christ in you can recognize Christ in another man. Therefore, if Christ is truly manifesting and you cannot recognize Him, you must be committing adultery with your carnal mind, because when your personality is in adultery, your lover [carnal mind] blinds you to Christ.
Well, I have said all this to help you to understand what Paul is talking about in Hebrews 12:1. Are there any questions about what I have said so far?
Hebrews 12:1, Alternate Translation: And for this reason, the aura of Christ Jesus is compassing about us ....
The Greek word translated "cloud," Strong's # 3509, means a shapeless collection of vapor. Christ is Spirit. He is shapeless. His energy is within us and outside of us.
Acts 5:15, Insomuch that they brought forth the sick into the street, and laid them on beds and couches, that at the least THE SHADOW OF PETER passing by might overshadow some of them.
Christ Jesus' energy was exuding from Peter, and as that energy exuded from Him, it formed a cloud round about him.
And for this reason, the aura of Christ Jesus is compassing about us, who have been curved [into a black hole] for such a long time, so let us put off all of these dark thought forms [who] stand around us on every side....
We also have an aura from Satan. Dark thought forms are a translation of the word "sin." I translated the word "sin" this way because of the words that follow it in this verse. The Greek word translated "doth so easily beset," Strong's # 2139, means "to surround." It is derived from two other Greek words, one of which means "to stand up."
We are translating the words, "doth so easily beset us," as "standing around us, thwarting us in every direction."
I have told you recently that the thought forms of our own sin nature have formed a cage around us.
Jer 5:26, For among my people are found wicked men, they lay wait, as he that setteth snares, they set a trap, they catch men,
Verse 27, AS A CAGE FULL OF BIRDS, so are their houses full of deceit, therefore they have become great, and waxen rich,
Verse 28, They are waxen fat, they shine, yea, they overpass the deeds of the wicked, they judge not the cause of the fatherless, yet they prosper, and the right of the needy do not they judge.
You may recall that we had a teaching on the word "shine" recently. It means "to send forth rays." These verses are talking about men who have a lot of Satan's energy, which forms an aura around them.
"Aura" is not a dirty word. The church is just not familiar with it. The Scripture speaks about the spiritual principle of "aura," but uses different words to express the same idea.
So we see that the Scripture relates the word "cage" to the idea of a spiritual shining forth, or an aura.
Rev 18:2, And he cried mightily with a strong voice crying Babylon the great is fallen is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils and the hold of every foul spirit, AND A CAGE OF EVERY UNCLEAN AND HATEFUL BIRD.
The hateful bird is the spiritually ascended carnal mind. When I say spiritually ascended, I mean that the fiery serpent in the individual has ascended outside of Christ and married Leviathan in the 6th energy center of the counterfeit timeline. The man who is experiencing this spiritual condition is immortal in the Serpent. He is what the Scripture calls a giant. I don't know if Goliath was physically large or not, but I know that he was an immortal of the Serpent's timeline.
So the cage that these two Scriptures are talking about, is a spiritual cage which is formed by our own evil thought forms. We become locked in by the fruit of our own evil mind.
Alternate Translation of Heb 12:1, And for this reason, the aura of Christ Jesus is compassing about us, who have been curved [into a black hole] for such a long time, so let us put off all of these dark thought forms [who] stand around us on every side ....
First of all, the phrase, "stand around us," is speaking about perfection or full stature. This is very interesting because, according to this understanding, Paul is telling the Hebrews that their spiritual power is from the Serpent's timeline, and the verses that we just looked at concerning the cage of evil men and evil birds, witnesses to this idea.
It is nothing new that men who start out serving God eventually ascend in the Serpent's time line. How can this be? This can happen very easily to those who do not have an understanding of the Doctrine of Christ.
There is a spiritual part of us that ascends. Does anyone remember her name?
JSNGSNG: Human spirit
LivingEM: Does anyone remember the name of our spiritual virginity?
ToDaNow: Fiery serpent
JSNGSNG: Fiery serpent
LivingEM: Yes, the fiery serpent. She is the harlot in us who must be restrained until Christ Jesus joins with her, so that they can ascend together. If she ascends without Christ Jesus, she will ascend into the wrong channel and join with Leviathan who is in the 7th energy center of the counterfeit timeline. We see that the Scripture is saying that this has happened to many Hebrews, and I say that it has happened and is happening, to many in the Church.
Alternate Translation Heb 12:1, we see that those of us who are surrounded with many dark thought forms are standing in the Serpent's spiritual power, which is Satan. Many who think they are in Christ are practicing witchcraft. But now that we have Christ Jesus' aura -- now that we have spiritual strength to fight the dark thought forms that have caged us in -- let us put off this evil aura.
It is very important to understand that these two auras will not live together peaceably. One will live and the other will die. They are antagonistic towards one another. They destroy one another. Jesus said, if you are not for me, you are against me. By saying this, Jesus was emphasizing the necessity for our personality choosing which husband she will cleave to. Passivity defaults to the carnal mind. If we do not actively choose Christ, our personality cleave to our carnal mind and our Christ energy is annihilated.
This means that our power to overcome Satan's energy will be destroyed. Our spiritual weapons in Christ Jesus will be destroyed. And once they are destroyed, you will be defenseless. Well, won't the Lord give us another chance, you say? Of course He will, but it takes time to build up our spiritual weapons again, and Satan does not look kindly towards anyone who has ever damaged her or her kingdom through Christ Jesus.
You will be naked without your weapons. You may survive, but then again, you may not. "Jesus would never let that happen!" Want to bet? Do not be deceived. God is not mocked. Your sin will surely find you out. In other words, you will surely reap what you sow. In your passivity you have chosen Satan, and the one who you preferred shall judge your sins.
And for this reason, the aura of Christ Jesus is compassing about us, who have been curved [into a black hole] for such a long time, so let us put off all of these dark thought forms [who] stand around us on every side....
Doing what? They cage us in and thwart [the righteous thoughts of Christ]. This is how you can have Christ formed in you and still not live out of Him. By definition, Christ Jesus has pierced through Satan's energy cloud, but Christ is still underneath. If you desire Christ in you to mature into Christ Jesus, you must pierce through Satan's energy cloud, because the dark thought forms of Satan's energy cloud [aura] are covering over Christ Jesus' aura, and swallowing it up.
Endure Christ Jesus[' corrective judgment], and spend your strength pursuing the assembling that has been revealed to you.
That was the last phrase of the Alternate Translation of Heb 12:1. This is Paul's instruction as to how to overcome Satan's energy cloud, which is preventing Christ from appearing in you.
Endure corrective judgment. "Endure" is an alternate translation of the Greek word translated "patience." The word "patience," used to really bother me. I could not see how it was reasonable to be patient during severe trials, or through any trial, for that matter. Well, I finally looked up the Greek word and found out that it means "to endure hard trials." I can deal with this translation, but I have a problem with the Pharisees telling me to be patient when I am dying.
How does corrective judgment overcome Satan's energy cloud? Anybody? Corrective judgment teaches us how to distinguish between the two energy clouds.
We kill Christ every time we submit to Satan because we think she is Christ, but if we endure the pain of correction [which only comes from pride], and acknowledge that for the moment we joined with Satan and not Christ in our thinking, we will eventually learn to tell the difference between the two energy sources, or the two spirits.
The ability to distinguish between the two energy clouds cannot be imparted with the laying on of hands. This wisdom comes only by submission to one who can already tell the difference between the two, and then applying what we have learned to personal experience. Only the wisdom which is in Christ Jesus can overcome Satan. She is too smart for mortal man, and not only mortal man, but Adam also, who had an imputed righteousness.
Satan uses witchcraft, seduction and illusion. She lays over our Christ mind and lies to us. Satan is the lie. We will never defeat her without a knowledge of the spiritual law, but most important, we will never defeat her without marriage to the Lord Jesus, who is above. Christ in us must mature into Christ Jesus, that is, Christ in us must pierce through Satan's energy cloud, which is lying over Him, and ascend into the heart [4th] center, from where ascension into the brow [6th] center becomes a realistic hope.
There is no realistic hope to ascend into perfection, which is in the brow [6th] center, unless we have first ascended into the heart [4th] center. Satan, Leviathan's dog, will never let us past the third center. She will nip at our heels, so that we get thrown backward.
Gen 49:17, Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward.
This verse tells us that Satan operates through men. The horse of the Lord is the physical body of the believer. The heel is the reflection, or the personality, of the rider, and the rider is either Christ Jesus or Leviathan. In this case, the rider is Christ Jesus, but since this verse is in the Old Testament, the rider is King Adam.
Dan is one of the tribes of Israel. Satan will manifest through our physical and spiritual brethren and relatives to grieve us and cause us to fall backward. Fighting, bickering or any kind of dissension pushes Christ down, so humble yourself and endure corrective judgment, when Christ Jesus in a man shows you that your response, or your attitude, has not been in Christ.
Submit yourself to God, and Satan shall flee from you. This Scripture is not talking about every-day problems, although if you can apply it to everyday problems and be healed, thank God for it. But the depth of this Scripture is talking about Satan's energy cloud, which is covering Christ, and is determined to kill Him by seducing us to sin in our thoughts and attitudes. Everyone knows that we should not sin in our behavior or words. It is the hidden sins of the heart which are our ruination.
And for this reason, the aura of Christ Jesus is compassing about us, who have been curved [into a black hole] for such a long time, so let us put off all of these dark thought forms,,,
Because if you do not do it when you have the strength, Satan will rise up from underneath Christ Jesus, your hope of glorification, and destroy Him.
Rev 20:9, And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and COMPASSED the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city [Christ Jesus, and fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them ....
These are the believers who cried out to the Lord Jesus while Satan was attacking Christ Jesus within them. The Lord Jesus is in the 7th energy center. He does not go below the 5th energy center. Only the Holy Spirit goes into the lower centers. That is, Jesus' ray, or the shining part of Jesus, stretches into the lower centers. The power needed to overcome Satan's energy cloud is found only in the union of the glorified Jesus Christ and Christ Jesus in the individual. This union cannot take place unless Christ Jesus is at least in the heart [4th] center.
And fire came down from God out of heaven......
The fire is the Lord Jesus descending to help Christ Jesus who is on the surface of Satan's sea [or Satan's sea of energy, or Satan's energy cloud].
So endure Christ Jesus[' corrective judgment], and spend your strength pursuing the assembling that has been revealed to us.
"Has been revealed to us" is an alternate translation of "set before us" and "assembling" is an alternate translation of "race." Strong's # 73 doesn't mean "race" at all. It means an assembly, an action at law, a trial, a place of assembly.
Many in the Church today talk about the in-gathering. They believe that the assembling of the saints is a gathering together of the physical saints, but this is not so. The assembling, or the in-gathering, is the putting of the whole man in the right moral order. And for the whole man to be in right order, his personality must ascend into the brow [6th] center with Christ Jesus.
You see, way back in the beginning, Elohim began to form the parts of the spiritual civilized man that He was building for Jehovah. Mortal men prepare the parts that they need to create a finished product all the time. Well, Elohim, and then Michael, prepared the necessary parts for their civilized man, but the Serpent used witchcraft to confuse the pattern before the civilized man was assembled. You see, Jesus was assembled according to the pattern, but we are not.
Ex. 25:40, and look that thou make them according to the pattern, which was showed thee in the mount.
The assembling of the saints is the bringing of the parts of the individual saint into the correct moral order.
Rev 1:1, and there appeared a great wonder in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun...
This is the personality who is no longer clothed with Satan's energy cloud. She is clothed with the energy cloud of Christ Jesus.
.... and the moon under her feet....
The moon is a reflection of the sun. Christ Jesus is the righteous seed, and the waters of creation are His reflection. Who is the waters of creation? Anyone?
LivingEM: Yes. Satan is the waters of creation in their defiled form. So the moon, Satan, was underneath Christ Jesus' energy cloud.
....and upon her head was a crown of 12 stars.
The woman, the personality, had a head, and her head was in the crown [7th] energy center, that is the Lord Jesus.
I will not comment on the 12 stars at this time.
We see that the in-gathering, or the assembling of the saints, is the gathering of the personality into the brow [6th] energy center, where she marries the Lord Jesus through her union with Christ Jesus within her.
Christ Jesus in the midst of the individual is the personality's new husband, and the personality is joined to the fiery serpent, her spiritual virginity. Actually, the fiery serpent is the spiritual virginity of the personality. So the personality, and the fiery serpent which is part of the personality, marry Christ Jesus, and when Christ Jesus ascends into the brow [6th] energy center, the personality and the fiery serpent ascend with Him.
Eph 4:8, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive and gave gifts to men.
When Christ Jesus in the man, Jesus, ascended into the brow energy center, He led the personality of the man, Jesus, who He was married to, into the brow [6th] center also. But Jesus ascended higher than the brow center. He ascended into the 7th center and beyond, where He no longer needs a physical body to live.
Deut 10:14, Behold the heaven and the heaven of heavens belongs to Jehovah and Elohim.
And because the man, Jesus, ascended into the heaven of heavens, he is now strong enough to send His ray, the Holy Spirit, which is His seed, into the earth. This is the gift of God.
Eph 4:10, And he that descended is the same that ascended up far above all heavens that he might fill all things.
John 3:13, And no [mortal] man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
Christ Jesus came down from heaven. The personality of the mortal man, Jesus, like all other personalities, was of the earth.
Rom 8:11, But if the spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his spirit that dwelleth in you.
This is a greatly misunderstood Scripture. It is very clear that there were two resurrections. The resurrection of Christ, and the resurrection of Jesus. The Spirit of Elijah raised up Christ in the man Jesus. Christ then matured into the spiritual man, Christ Jesus, and the Spirit of Christ Jesus, raised the personality [man], Jesus, from the dead.
This Scripture does not name the one who raised up either Christ or the man, Jesus. The Spirit of Elijah became the Spirit of Christ when the man, Jesus, was glorified. The Scripture is saying, therefore, if the Spirit of Christ raises Christ from the dead in you, when Christ in you matures into Christ Jesus and joins with the glorified Jesus Christ, you, too, will experience perfection. The Lord, Jesus, will do for you, what Elijah did for Him. But, of course, Jesus is the Spirit of Elijah in another personality.
Matt 11:14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.
And for this reason, the aura of Christ Jesus is compassing about us, who have been curved [into a black hole] for such a long time, so let us put off all of these dark thought forms [who] stand around us on every side, thwarting [the righteous thoughts of Christ], endure Christ Jesus['s corrective judgment], and spend our strength pursuing the assembling which has been revealed to us.
The last verses of Hebrews, Chapter 11 speak about the great faith of those who went before us. The Authorized Version sounds like the Judgment Seat of Christ is given to deliver us from Satan's grasp, because of the great faith of those who had been curved into a black hole for such a long time. But this is not Scriptural, brethren. We are saved through union with the Son. We are saved by the faith of Christ Jesus who was appearing in all of the heros named in Hebrews, Chapter 11.
The great cloud of witnesses is Christ Jesus in all of the saints. When a group of believers are together in one place, Christ sends forth rays of Himself from each individual, which vibrate beyond their physical bodies. These rays, or the Christ aura of each of the saints, meet and flow together like the treetops of a forest of trees. The Christ aura of the many flow together and form an energy cloud which hovers over the whole room. The individual Christ aura becomes indistinguishable.
Exod 13:21, And the LORD went before them by day IN A PILLAR OF A CLOUD, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night:
1 Cor 10:1, Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2, And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea.
This cloud is what the Church calls the "anointing."
LivingEM: Are their any questions or comments?
The alternate translation of Hebrews 12:1, was worked up as part of the interpretation of the dream, Victory In Washington.
Let us pray for the country before we go. In case you have not heard, there is a possibility that Clinton will bomb Iraq tonight or tomorrow. The Moslem holy day of Ramadan begins on Saturday. If Clinton bombs on the Moslem Holy Day, the Arab nations might be enraged. Tomorrow morning the House of Representatives is supposed to vote as to whether or not to impeach President Clinton, but that vote may now be put off.
Father, in the Name of Jesus, have mercy on this nation. We confess that our government has done much evil, and that now an evil man has authority over this nation. We confess that your judgments are righteous, oh God, and that we are reaping what our ancestors have sown. We humble ourselves before you Lord and ask that you be glorified in our failures. Be our strength, Lord, while we are weak. Do what is best for us Lord. Restore your righteousness to the scorched earth, Lord. We know that we deserve only death, but you are a merciful God. Leave a tenth, oh God, that your righteousness should survive and revive in this nation. Amen and Amen.
Is 6:13, BUT YET IN IT SHALL BE A TENTH, and it shall return, and shall be eaten: as a teil tree, and as an oak, whose substance is in them, when they cast their leaves: SO THE HOLY SEED SHALL BE THE SUBSTANCE THEREOF.
God bless you all.