592 - 1 Part
THE CARNAL MIND IS A PROBLEM

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I was explaining to you that it is a scriptural word to say that you are the king of everything you have authority over that is not a manifestation of pride.  It is a spiritual reality that the Lord wants us to walk in.  You are the king of your own life of everyone underneath you.  You are the servant of the Lord Jesus who is above you. 

 

And we were talking about preachers how yes they are the king of the ministry the Lord has given them, but there seems to be very little if any understanding at all that the Lord can bring in a kingship that is higher than your kingship. You see a lot of the ministers today they stay in the New Testament, the Old Testament is very important. 

 

And the New Testament is important, the New Testament is the story of the first man that the promises of God became fulfilled in Jesus of Nazareth. And what happened to Him and how people reacted to Him it is very important.  But the Old Testament is very important too, all of the warfare is in the Old Testament, the spiritual warfare as evidence by the physical warfare.   And there is a lot of very very important things in the Old Testament that the Jews do not like to call it the Old Testament.  They call it the scriptures and what we call the New Testament is an addition like a ...... but I stay with the terms that the church can recognise.

 

But there is really a truth to it there is no Old and New Testament because the term Old Testament suggest that and that is what the scripture says, that something new has come the old has passed away, behold I make all things new.  So the implication is the Old Testament is no longer valid, but this is not true at all.  It is the scripture, it is very important there are many many lessons in there and the wars that the kings waged there are many principles that we need to understand. 

 

So what I am trying to tell you now if that if you look in the Old Testament kings were always bowing to other kingdoms.  There was always an empire coming making a vast estate out of another kingdom.  At the beginning Israel was prevailing everywhere, King Solomon had all of this surrounding nations paying taxes to him, just like Rome had all of the (now Rome was not raised up in Christ) I should not say that, I do not want to say it that way because the scripture says everyone in power God has put them in power.  Even the ungodly people in power God has put them in power.  How do we explain that?  The sowing and reaping judgement is the righteous judgement of Jehovah. 

 

So for people, if a nation has an ungodly tyrant over them, it is the sowing and reaping judgement so therefore God has put that person in power.  Does anybody not understand that?  I preached a whole message on that not too long ago. 

 

It is very important that we understand how it can be said that God and Jehovah, I say Jehovah because Jehovah is the God of the law.  The Lord Jesus we like to see Him as the minister of peace and of course right now Jehovah has risen up to a higher power.   There is only one God, He manifest Himself to us in a variety of ways and each way that He manifests Himself to us He takes a different name to help us to comprehend what He is trying to tell us. 

 

So when I use the name Jehovah I associate that largely with the sowing and reaping judgement and with the ... well for now that is what I am going to say but there is only one God.  Today He is appearing to us as the Lord Jesus Christ and Jesus said I did not come to take the law away I came to fulfil the law.

 

So through the Lord Jesus Christ the name Jehovah is still operating and it is associated with the law.  The name Jesus Christ the mercy of God is operating and that we are more likely to associate with the name of Jesus but there is just one God and depending on how He is relating to us or the church that is the name that we choose.  Does anybody have a problem with that?  So when I say Jehovah, I usually use the name Jehovah when I am talking about the law. 

 

I think what I was saying to you was that Rome was an empire.  The Roman Empire and they conquered all of the surrounding states and made them .... States, what does that mean?  Those States had to pay taxes to Rome.  Rome was ruling so there was an emperor in Rome that brought into submission to himself the kingdoms all around him including the kingdom of Judah and there was a time when Israel did the same thing.  There was a time when Moab and Amon and Edom were all these all nations of the ancient world that they all paid taxes to Israel.  This was the way it goes and the scripture says first in the natural and then in the spiritual.

 

So the same thing is happening in the spiritual for the preachers who can recognise it that even though you may be the king of a local fellowship, in the day that the Lord sends, that the Lord does it, not some crazy person that walks into your church and says now you all have to submit to me because there are crazy people who do that.  In the day that the Lord really raises up somebody of a higher anointing the kings of those other churches have to acknowledge to that. 

 

Now this has already happened on a semi (I do not know whether to) this is first time the thought has ever come to me.  You all know that I preach by revelation so I do not know whether it is legitimate or not legitimate or semi legitimate but it will come out as I continue to talk.  We have already seen this happen with Jimmy Swaggart and Benny Hinn. 

 

Now I do not believe Benny Hinn is of God I think he has a spirit guide but that is another story.   But Jimmy Swaggart has the Holy Spirit and he had a multiple churches acknowledging him as a leader of the church.  But I have to tell you this that even though he has multiple ministry acknowledging as leader of the church, my personal feeling is that if JS walked into one of those churches and said there is an issue here that is not being dealt with righteously and I want to hold a spiritual court because that is what Paul said we are going to do.  He said we are going judge angels, who are the angels? We are the angels.

 

Every issue has to be resolved in Christ Jesus if you want to continue to be a son of God.  The church cannot judge us because the church I am sorry, the world cannot judge us they do not have righteous judgement, they do not have the authority to judge Christ but if Christ does not judge Christ then we wind up in the worldly court.  But the Holy Spirit cannot judge Christ; you see the Holy Spirit does not have righteous judgement.

 

So I really think if Jimmy Swaggart was to walk into one of these churches that acknowledged him as the head of the church and said there is something out of right order here and I want to hold court and I want to resolve this issue and then to find the pastor of that church wrong, I do not think there is a pastor in this country that would have ever submitted to that. You can disagree with me on this.  Anybody disagree with me on this?  I do not think so.

 

So what am I saying that Jimmy Swaggart and he is just an example, he was very anointed in the Holy Spirit but he did not have Christ.  So he probably I do not think he ever did anything like that this is just an example. 

 

So what I am saying is that Jimmy Swaggart I am certainly not picking on Jimmy Swaggart, okay he was just an example.  And he would have been wrong doing that because I do not think he has the spirit of righteous judgement which is in Christ Jesus. And I do not believe that he ever did it.

 

So what I am trying to say is we see a prototype, a sketch in undeveloped sketch of what is coming in the future, that local fellowships are willing to submit to an established fellowship but not fully.  We just see the concept of it okay and why would these churches willing to submit to Jimmy Swaggart.  Why anybody? What was so great about Jimmy Swaggart that other churches were willing to call him the leader or one of the leaders of the church?  What did he have that the other churches did not have?

 

COMMENT:  ......

 

PASTOR VITALE:  Jimmy Swaggard?

 

COMMENT: ......

 

PASTOR VITALE:  Well he did seem humble but what XXXX

 

COMMENT:  I will say that he has charisma.

 

PASTOR VITALE:  Charisma but more than that he had money, he had money.  He had money money money, he had thousands and millions of people watching him on television buying his books, buying his CDs, that is what he had.  What does that say about the church? What does that say about it?  Is that bad, no that is not bad.

 

I believe that the Lord anointed him.  I believe that he had the Holy Spirit.  I do not agree with what he was teaching.  He was teaching the rapture.  I do not agree with his doctrine but I believe that the faith that he was teaching. I do not believe like I say the rapture and whatever else.  And that ... that he was preaching, was he doing anything wrong? No I do not believe that. 

 

So what is wrong with the church designating Jimmy Swaggart as a leader of the church because of the money that gave him the publicity and because he was a teacher.  I will agree XXXX says charisma.  He was a charismatic teacher.  All that charismatic means is that you have something in your personality that makes people want to listen to you.  That when you talk you are interesting and people want to listen to you that is what charisma is. 

 

So what was wrong with the church designating Jimmy Swaggart as a church leader because he has charisma, and he was at least by the terms of this world he was successful.  How was he successful? He was making money and a lot of people listen to him, nothing wrong with making money, nothing wrong with a lot of people listening to him.  What is wrong with the other people in the church and the pastors of the church designating someone as a church leader based on this criteria.  What criteria? Of that he has charisma, that a lot of people like to listen to him and that he was making a lot of money, and that he was very popular because the money he was making put him on television and the radio and he was a household name.

 

So what is wrong? Let’s forget about the people.  What is wrong with the pastors designating him a church leader on this basis.

 

COMMENT: They did not use judgement as to his doctrine

 

PASTOR VITALE:  Okay somebody said he did not use judgement as to his doctrine that is very close.  What did you want to say?

 

COMMENT:  ..that should not have been the motivating force to have a leader it should not be carnal money, it should be a spiritual teacher.

 

PASTOR VITALE: what should it be?

 

COMMENT:  It should be spiritual.

 

PASTOR VITALE: Okay the two of you are very close. Someone just said money should not be the criteria or popularity should not be the criteria on which a believer identifies the church leader.  And the answer is what should be the criteria?  The criteria should be the appearance of Christ in him.  The appearance of righteousness in him, the people were seeing the appearance of the Holy Spirit in him and the Holy Spirit teaches you about faith, now I believe teaches you about miracles which built faith in Christ but the Holy Spirit is not does not impart righteousness.

 

The problem here is that the church at large does not know the difference between the Holy Spirit and Christ Jesus; they do not believe that there is something else.  They do not know to look for righteousness.  This is not for the church at large there may be somebody here or there that can do it.

 

I remember years ago when I was a young disciple in a deliverance church and I was asking the Lord about this.  I do not know exactly how I couched the question but it was something like what are the signs of spiritual maturity or something like that.  And I am in no way indicting the teacher or the pastor of my church at the time because he did a great job in the areas that the Lord told him to teach but I am telling you the truth that if did teach this I missed it.  I do not remember being taught that the quality that identifies the true leaders of God is righteousness.

 

It is righteousness and the charisma that comes out of righteousness because there is a charisma that comes out of the natural man.  Some people are good sales persons we have all of the personalities on television and in the movies.  Hollywood actors and actresses and sports players and they are all millionaires and billionaires.  They have charisma I do not know about the sports heroes but the actors and the actresses have charisma and they have money and they have the publicity they are household names.  They have the same thing that Jimmy Swaggart had.

 

So what is the difference between a Jimmy Swaggart and (what’s the one who has been on the news all the time, that just lost her kids) Brittney Spears.  What is the difference between Brittney Spears I am not being irreverent in any way I am just trying to teach you all something.  What is the difference between a Jimmy Swaggart and a Brittney Spears? They have the same qualities.

 

The problem is that the church cannot recognise righteousness.  We cannot recognise righteousness until righteousness begins to appear in us.  Because you cannot recognise what you do not know. You see that is why Paul tells us in the book of Romans he says it from the other side.  He says you who judge somebody before the time which means you are not judging out of righteousness, you who judge your brother what does he say about those people? Anybody?

 

COMMENT: You will be judged.

 

PASTOR VITALE:  Well that is close.  But before then he says where do you even come to recognise that they are doing something wrong.  He said you do the same thing.  He said you recognise sin in that person because you are familiar with it.  You do the same thing.  Or you have done the same thing or you are capable of the same thing.  You recognise that sin because it is familiar to you so if righteousness is familiar to you, you will recognise righteousness.

 

Now if I have truly demonstrated righteousness to you at any time since you have been with me, you now have a foundation by which to judge other people and other preachers and it is legitimate to look at a preacher and say Lord do I see righteousness in that person and if it is there I can recognise it because I am familiar with it.  If I have taught you righteousness you now have the ability to judge other teachings for righteousness because you are familiar with what I have taught you.  So you have to be a sinner in your heart to judge sin and you have to have the spirit of righteousness which is in Christ Jesus to recognise it in other people.

 

Now is this not interesting, how few people recognise the righteousness, the spirit of righteousness on this ministry.  What does that say about the church.

 

I do not say this to condemn the church.  I say this because this is what the Lord our God is doing today.  He is looking at His church and He is saying ‘church I have given you power, I have given you my spirit, I have given you power but that power that I have given you has not brought forth righteousness in you.  Power alone does not bring forth righteousness anymore than pouring money into people who are poverty stricken because of social issues.  People who are poverty stricken because of wrong thinking and I am not against anybody here. 

 

The help for the people who are on welfare for 2 and 3 and 4 generations is not to give them more money, it is not to give them power.  They help the people who are trapped in lives of poverty which lacks self respect which breed criminality for generations not just for people here but nations who are trapped in poverty.  The solution is not money. 

 

The United States gives away billions of dollars it has not helped the Palestinians.  There is still poverty in Palestine.  What is the problem what is missing what is lacking? Righteousness produces prosperity on every level.  Righteousness produces prosperity.  First prosperity of your own thoughts and right thinking, and then it grows out and the blessings of prosperity which arise out of being in the mindset out of agreement with the righteousness of Christ Jesus produces prosperity.  That is how this nation got to be the way it is.  Probably the greatest nation that has ever existed in all time, it is because of Christ Jesus and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

And this foolish, foolish people in the country today that think that this country is going to remain as prosperous as it is as they tear down the laws of God I hope that they do not find out that they are wrong.  I hope that Lord saves us from the mark of the beast that is spreading like wild fire through the minds of the people in this country.

 

So how did I get here I was talking to you about the concept of the Lord wanting to raise up His church.  I am told that the sickness and disease in the church is on the par with the people in the world.  That divorce is a par with the people in the world.  People in the church have the same problem they are no different than the people in the world but that is not what my bible says.  My bible says we are supposed to be different, the bible says people are suppose to look at us and be jealous of us to the point that they come to us and say how did you get it? How did you get to this place, Sheila how did you get healed? You almost died 3 times you were sick since you were 11 or 12 years old, dying at 11 years old.  How I remember you Sheila 20 years ago when you could hardly walk, I remember you laying in the back of the church.  So sick that you could not stand up, how did this happen to you? How did you become the leader of the ministry and a message that is going all over the world.  How did it happen to you?

 

What happened to me is that Christ Jesus came to me and started teaching me and I fell into agreement with Him.  Not only on the doctrine in everything that He showed me that I was doing wrong.  I agree that no matter what he said to me no matter how crazy it sounded He was right and I was wrong.  That is why I am alive today. 

 

So the Lord is looking at His church today and we see that there is the power of God, the power of God is still in the church.  It is leaving some fellowships but it is still in the church.  But this wisdom of Christ is not there.  Now maybe they are in some one here or there but it cannot just stay in someone here or there.  This is what the tribulation is all about, it is not what the church is telling you. 

 

The tribulation is the righteousness of God correcting the fallen nature of His people.  Now you cannot be correcting people unless Christ in you is doing it.  So the Lord is raising up, He is raising up, He is teaching people .  Christ is appearing in people and very few people at this time I got a phone call from someone yesterday who is in this position. And you know this is not a fun position to be in.  To have to go and tell people that they are not doing especially pastors that they are not doing righteousness.

 

Everybody wants to be a son of God, everybody wants to get people up out of wheelchairs, everybody wants to see the miracles, well I have news for you that that is coming, that is coming again but that kind of miracle working power (and this is my opinion if I am wrong let the Lord correct me) it is only coming out of people who are judging the sins of the people that the Lord sends them to.

 

You see we have had the Holy Spirit in the church a few people, a few people have had a miracle anointing an imputed miracle anointing the gifts of the calling of God are without repentant.  And these people that have had this miracle anointings have been raised up unto powerful mega ministries so that faith in Jesus Christ will be built in people and in the world.  But it cannot stay that way, you cannot be walking around professing faith in Jesus Christ and in fact having faith in certain areas and having a personality that is not righteous.  So the next step has to come but the leaders of the church and the church they do not believe it.

 

But that is no excuse.  The Lord says the fact that you do not believe it proves that you are a household a vessel that houses the satanic mind.  You are a vessel that is the spokes person for the beast.  The more you are into the Lord the more you become the second beast that look like a lamb for those of you that remember the book of revelation.  And I saw another beast and it looked like a lamb but it what? Anybody but it what?  It spake like a dragon.  I did not hear what you said is that what you said?

 

COMMENT: ...

 

PASTOR VITALE: Yes, yes it looked like a lamb but it spake like a dragon.  The beast is the church.  So for those of you who have received the doctrine because I do not believe that Christ can be formed in anybody while they are rejecting the doctrine of Christ. I mean It is possible that the imputed Christ can be formed in you but you are not supposed to be judging sins until He is grafted to you and it has to be at a particular level of maturity in you.

 

He has to rise in you even me, I cannot judge sin unless it is Christ in me doing it.  You cannot go round telling everybody everything that they are doing wrong; it has to be in accordance with the Lord’s plan to raise you up.  If you are in a ministry like this and you are hearing this message you are called to judge sins in righteousness for the purpose of bringing the church into the image of the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

For what purpose why is the church to come into the image of the Lord Jesus Christ? So that the whole country and Christiandom because Great Britain which was a great force for the Lord is now in very bad shape.  So the Lord is raising up a company of people to judge sins so that the church can be save and that the church can come into the image of the Lord Jesus Christ, why? So that the whole world can be saved, it is the will of God that everybody on this planet should have their needs met. 

 

It is not His will that people should be living in poverty but you have to do it His way.  And all the people are yelling and screaming prejudice, prejudice you think only your God saves.  Yes I think only my God saves.  And this political correctness that is in this country today is a manifestation of the mark of the beast which is the carnal mind. 

 

I was watching ..... the other night and that XXXX I heard he is a very nice guy but I have to tell you my opinion of him on an intellectual level and as a interviewer he has the mark of the beast.  His mind just..His thinking is all convoluted okay. And he said to XXXX on the phone, not on the phone he was interviewing him and he said to XXXX the big spokes person for Christianity, I do not know at what level of Christianity she is at.  I have a feeling that she is a catholic but I do not really know but she I agree with a lot of things that she said.  She is very very very outspoken and a lot of people criticise her for that.  I do not have an opinion on that I think it is a possibility that the Lord is telling her to be that outspoken just to get the publicity, just to get people’s attention but I do not know. I have not heard from the Lord on that issue and I will not criticise her.

 

Well anyway XXXX challenged her, he said you were on television the other day and you said and this is not a quote because I do not remember exactly what it was.  So it went like this em Jesus is the only one who could save that was the suggestion and he said now do you think that is right talking about other people’s religion like that and telling them that their religion is not valid and your God is the only valid God.  Do you think you should be doing that?

 

Well she flipped out, she is very outspoken, she flipped out on television and she said in a very agitated tone she said  well XXXX is it a total shock to you that some people actually believe what their religion teaches.  Is that not what Christianity teaches? That there is salvation in no other name, in this name shall all men be saved and there is salvation in no other name.  And if you do not have a relationship and hope and faith in Jesus Christ you are in this world without hope.

 

COMMENT:  she said that?

 

PASTOR VITALE:  No that is what I am saying.  But in so many words she said is it such a shock to you that people really believe what their religion teaches them and poor XXXX the camera showing his face and he was like .....   

 

Like I said I hear he is a very nice guy but I do not say anything bad because I may publish this message, but he just does not have it.  He does not have ... not only does he not have the spirit of righteousness his thinking is just convoluted and backwards.  And you should have seen his face, it was just ........ and then they cut her off the screen.  They stopped it because he was speechless and she was going on and on and on so they put the camera on XXXX and then they put it back on her and she had calm down. And XXXX was off he was off the screen. 

 

So there are people with the mark of the beast, these people are fools.  I am sorry it is a scriptural word, they are just foolish.  On another XXXX programme I do not recall who was being interviewed but the person what I hear now this is very good news that there are producers and directors coming up in Hollywood that are making Godly films because Hollywood is utterly corrupt at this point I am sure you all know that. 

 

And there is a movie out now called ‘Bella’ I really should go see it just to support the director.  It is supposed to be a beautiful film in which the woman chooses to give the baby up for adoption rather than to abort it but there is suppose to be a beautiful film. And the distributors, the people who are in the business of distributing films will not take that film to distribute it.  Which means this is a full manifestation of the scripture that says whoever does not have the mark of the beast cannot buy or sell.  The movie can be a great movie but you are not going to make your money back on it and a profit unless someone distributes it for you.  So there is someone, I did not even know this although it makes sense, someone whose whole business is to have a communication with all of the movie theatres and say well this is what I have to sell you, these are the latest films and this distributor will not distribute that movie.

 

So O’really’s team got after them and they got embarrassed and they said okay we are going to do it.  You see thank God for Bill.  So I really should go see the movie just to support the director but I am so excited to hear that there are several directors that have come up now that are making Godly films.  And again it is not even an anti abortion film it is just an alternate choice and It was not even the whole movie he said it was just a little part of the movie.

 

Well we have people in this country today, it is not that they have a different opinion it is that they are trying to almost militaristically force their opinion on other people, and they are doing it to our kids in the schools. And not only that you know what else I heard on the radio the other day, which I guess I am not shocked anymore I do not know what the right word is. 

 

There is a woman giving a testimony and she was speaking to young people who are going into college.  She said do not major in English because what is happening all the universities is that the traditional teaching for English major where you will study Shakespeare and Chaucer now what is great about Shakespeare and Chaucer and offers in a universal like that is that what they write is about human nature.  So their works transcend time because they are talking about human nature and good lessons are learnt.  Psychology goes very close with literature, learning about human nature she said they are not teaching Shakespeare and Chaucer any more, that they are just teaching these modern authors who have in my words the mark of the beast.

 

And I saw a clip here the other day again .... on an interview with Norman Miller who just died and he was telling ... in so many words that people who do not agree with me are stupid.  And this is what is going on in the country; this is what is going on in politics today.  There is no recognition from the liberals that there are 2 philosophies that are disagreeing with each other in this country.  Everyone who does not agree with them is stupid, ignorant and not qualified to led or rule not only the country but to be in any kind of office to be in, have any authority over the teachers or to have over the school system or to have any authority over your own children because you do not know what you are doing.  You are stupid if you do not agree with what the liberals teach that is what is happening in the country today. And people are starting to lose their children over issues like this. 

 

Now I saw it in my own family and this goes back at least ten years.  One of the young couples in my family was having a problem with their daughter she was not doing well in school and another family member who is a school teacher of special age children was advising, I think they were talking about putting the child in ....  do you know how many young children are on drugs in our society today? And I was telling them in my opinion do not put her ... I do not believe in that you know.  And then the young lady who is the school teacher in my family of special aid children was very offended at what I was saying and she crashed into the conversation and said oh I do not agree with you.  And the whole attitude was I am the teacher.  I was not going to fight with her I just backed off and she started to talk to the young couple and encourage them to put the child in ... saying I can help you and blah blah blah.  The parents of the child did not do it and in subsequent years my niece who was advising them to do it in her passing comment have said to me here I offered to help them for free and they never even called me.  Well they did not put the child in ... she has graduated high school, she is now in her first year in college and how well she is doing or not doing I do not know but she is going on with her life and we were supposed to be learning and maturing from our experiences.

 

So this is the mentality and that was what her motive was not to hurt me, but my whole point is my niece who rose up and cancelled out what I was saying came from this beast mentality that I am educated and I know and you do not because you do not have the formal education or because you do not agree with me.  That child should be on .... she should not be on .....

 

So this is what we are up against and it is filtering down into the common people that we have heard calling President Bush stupid.  Now that is outrageous, you do not have to agree with his policy.  You know I could be friends with you and you can be absolutely against him and his policy and you can think he is wrong on the war but do not call my President stupid.

 

If you are so much smarter than he is let’s see you try to do this job, but that is the point if you do not agree you are stupid or you are wrong.  We have heard this in the congress, I have heard Ted Kennedy rail against a couple to people that were being interviewed by congress.  ‘You are wrong you did this, you did that.’  What do you mean they are wrong he did that his political philosophy he did what he thought was right.  Do not tell him he is wrong. I think it was the attorney general, I do not really remember who it was.

 

This is the mentality that precedes the overtaking of the nation by a tyrant.  And once the tyrant gets a grip this is the mentality that starts arresting people that do not agree with you, and throwing you in jail because of political descent that is what rising it is the beast, it is rising up here.  It is well risen.  It is fully formed. 

 

And we see it prophesied in Daniel chapter 8. There was a ram standing on a hill I may not have the exact right words ruling that was Israel the ram was Israel ruling and suddenly there appeared a goat and the goat looked at that ram with great ..anger great anger in his mind and had a prominent horn and that goat rammed that ram and the ram was not ready for it.  The ram was not ready for it, did not see it coming, and when the goat rammed it with his horn it just stood there in shock did not fight back, could not believe it was happening and that goat killed that ram. 

 

And we are told if you believe in that alternate translation and that ram had an image in its mind.  You see this country I do not want to say what it was, this country what it is, the greatness of this country is the outplaying of a mindset of a people.  This is what our country is.  It is the mindset that was initiated by the founders of the nation as relayed in our constitution.  But this goat is out there and it has a different image in its mind and he is ramming this nation.  It is attacking the spiritual realm that is this nation and the nation is being overtaken because they are not standing in Christ. 

 

Although we do have a church that is standing but the people at large have fallen away and they are being becoming a part of the goat company which is the mind and the mark of the beast. And that goat is determined to change the image of this nation to a non Christian nation.  To a socialist if not a communist nation and they are doing it. I really believe that the only hope of this nation is that Lord Jesus Christ will move sovereignly. I believe He is going to move sovereignly but if He does not the nation’s is coming down.  But I believe He is going to move sovereignly.

 

This mind control, this goat, you see evil is always stronger than good.  Is that not what the bible says?  Evil is always stronger than good.  Evil is stronger than good therefore our only hope is righteousness because evil is stronger than good.  And the ignorance of the people calling our leader stupid. I do not have a word to describe it, except that they are just complete fools and they are destroying themselves.  Because it is some resentment in their heart that makes them feel good calling our leader stupid.  Something must be making them feel superior, something wrong in their heart and in their mind.

 

And this cannot be happening to the country if the church was in right standing with God.  The church is carnal, seeking only their own needs but then again on the other hand they are not being taught.  As Christians we have a responsibility to the church, to the country, to the world.  Does not the scripture say you are kings and priests; we are priests, that means we are all intercessors.  It is our job to bring the mindset of God to the people in a manner that they can consider it not to just condemn them and tell them you are going to hell if you do not believe this and I am ... what kind of a message is that.

 

And all the preachers that preach that the church should not be involved in political or in the political life of the country, the Lord is very involved in the political life of the country, He is intimately involved in the political life of the country.  

 

So we have a ministry of ministers that are simply not qualified to be leaders.  I started to tell you someone called me the other day a member of the ministry from another state, they live in another state and very sweet lady.  She has a spirit of righteousness and the Lord sometimes have people who are members of this ministry that do not live locally attend other churches.  He sends them there for a reason. 

 

So this couple, the woman is married it is a couple they have been attending a local church for 3 years and they have just established a relationship with the pastor and pastor’s wife and the people in the church.  They have called me several times saying what are we doing here.  I do not know what we are doing here.  And I say well if you feel the Lord sent you, you should go.  And it is a challenge for you to believe and this is hard when someone goes to when the Lord really sends you to another church on assignment okay and you are still associated with this ministry, you are still disciplining under this ministry.  You need to understand that different rules apply to you and that is a dangerous thing to tell people that different rules apply to you but I have to tell you that because it is the truth.

 

This ministry, the doctrine of Christ and any ministry who will be in a similar position, I am not claiming that I am the only one forever.  As the Lord raises people in this walk realm we are in the world to come.  You know there is a promise in the scripture of the world to come, we are the new age.  It is going to be right here in the earth.  The new age of Christ Jesus is a state of being and it is an existence in which Christ Jesus rules through you rather than you carnal mind. 

 

So people who are in this new age in Christ Jesus, people who in whom Christ is living out of them and who are living through Christ Jesus.  If a person like that is in a local church of the world that is passing away, at the time should it happen that Christ should rise up in their person, that person does have authority over the pastor.  Now this is a dangerous thing to tell you all, but I am telling you the truth but I am also telling you that if you make a mistake and you rise up out of your carnal mind you are going to come under judgement for it.  Does anybody not know what I am talking about?

 

So this couple has been in this church for 3 years and she called me, the woman called me all upset because just to make this story short.  There was a situation in the church where she gave a baby gift to a baby that was born and there were people involved and she gave it to one woman on behalf of the other woman who is living with her and the woman stole the money.  The member of the church she said here the woman is visiting living with you and she just have a baby here is a cheque and I am not putting down the name of the person on the cheque because for whatever her reasons so please hand it to her and let her put in the name of the payee and it is a gift for the baby and the woman stole the money.  She kept the cheque for herself.

 

A member of the church, I remember my daughter who to this day is struggling and has no believe today at all I do not think.  On the day that we went to be water baptised someone stole her colouring book.  I remember my seven or eight year old daughter saying to me they stole my book in the church.  It did not help her faith of course I am not blaming anything for her condition right now.  She is in the Lord’s hands.

 

So anyway this nice lady that called me it was disturbing her heart she did not know what to do about it.  She spoke to the pastor’s wife got no satisfaction.  Her husband got involved I cannot repeat the story to you correctly but the pastor’s wife was told the pastor was told, I do not remember who told who what.  And the pastor’s response was let it be.  Or maybe I will make some general statement from the pulpit and I said to this woman are you aware that is the way the church is in this country today.  That the fullest extent that of a correction that will come will be a general statement from the pulpit and then whether you repent or not or make changes it does not matter.  She said no, I did not know that.  That is across the whole church.  I do not know anybody that does what I do.  I confront unrighteousness in this ministry and I will confront it anywhere or everywhere that it appears. Why? Because we are supposed to be judging angels.

 

We are the angels if Christ is in you, you are an angel.  And if you are doing something wrong you have to come under judgement and make the correction.  So this nice lady she did not know what to do because she could not forget about it.  She could not forget about it, she could not just let it go. And the word that came into my heart as I spoke to her was the scripture that talks about righteous Lot locked within Sodom and the sins of the Sodomites grieving him every day.

 

Now I have to say at this point that the Lord has revealed in this ministry whether you are familiar with it or not that homosexuality was not the grievous sin of Sodom idolatry was the sin of Sodom.  And I have messages on it if you want to hear it. Am I promoting homosexuality?  No but I am telling you that it is simply not true what is being taught in the church today.  And I read over and over and over again in the scripture, the reason for judgement to fall on a nation or on a ministry is consistent and the reason is always the worship of other gods. 

 

The worship of other gods that is the unforgivable sin and the reason it is unforgivable is that when you worship another god you cut yourself off from the God that can forgive you.  Sin is sin we all die from sin.  But the sin that kills us is the worship of other gods, that is the sin you read the prophets.  That is why judgement and destruction fell on Israel and Judah the worship of other gods. 

 

So I have to speak to this woman and tell her that she definitely has a spirit of righteousness.  This is your first test we are supposed to be judging angels.  And she is saying but I do not have any authority over this pastor and she was timid and she did not know what to do.  So we discussed it and I prayed and the word that came out of my mouth was that the Lord was removing this man.  He was going to lose his church.

 

Now I do not know the details, I do not know who he is or what else has been going on there or how long this has been going on, but brethren this is the issue, the church has to be judged, repentance comes forth you are restored.  If someone goes to you and tells you this is wrong, you have complaint from your congregation that unrighteousness has been done and you are not willing to do anything about it and you tell the person who has been violated to not worry about it and forget about it and forgive them without righteousness and the person that you are doing this to happens to have Christ in their hearts and Christ cannot forget about it, Christ cannot forget about injustice. He will not, if you truly have Christ in your heart He will not forget about injustice.  It never goes away and I am not talking about a personal resentment or a grudge.  I am talking a violation of Christ.  So she cannot sleep, not because the woman took her $50 but because the pastor would not do anything about it.  I mean it is the whole incident but it is his job to do something about it.  She cannot sleep because the pastor said forget about it and she thought that she had no authority to complain to the pastor.

 

Now how this is going to play out I do not know but I explained to her that she has the spirit of righteousness and that judgement is now falling on this pastor and the woman too I am sure. Because it gets all involved, the web of lies that she wove is unbelievable, to me unbelievable.  This cannot be in God’s church you see.  It cannot be.  So why is it going on this long? because it will continue until the people that have righteous judgement living in them arise.

 

So why is this pastor judged and not that pastor because it just so happens that 2 people who have righteous judgement in them are going to this church.  Is anybody not following me?  There are very few people with the spirit of righteousness in the church, very few but wherever someone who truly has the righteousness that is in Christ Jesus is present judgement will fall on that church.  And brethren you have to learn to live with this when I first found this out it used to bother me, everywhere I went the church behind me shut down. 

 

Do you know how many churches shut down after I left there? It used to upset me at the beginning.  I asked the Lord if I was a witch because that is what some people were saying about me.  I am not a witch but wherever righteousness goes and depending completely on how mature Christ Jesus is in you, how mature He is in you that is to which the degree that judgement falls when you pass through there. 

 

And that is what if it is not already happening with you, it will soon be happening with you because as long as you stay under this kind of teaching, God knows your hearts. If Christ is growing in you, judgement will begin to fall in your relationships.  It is the natural judgement is natural outgrowth of the confrontation between righteousness and unrighteousness.

 

Now at the beginning you may not understand it very well, the more you understand it the harder the judgement will fall.  It is who you are, this is assuming you are not risen up in pride and you are not going in and judging people unrighteously.  I am not talking about if you are doing that.  I am talking about someone who is doing their best to live for God that you believe the message of the doctrine of Christ and that you really want to live a righteous life and you come in contact with unrighteousness in any area of your life but in particular with another believer and in particular a pastor and that unrighteousness takes place.  Christ in you will bring judgement, if you are not risen up in pride, if you do not try to defend yourself and you stay humble in the situation, Christ will bring judgement on that person because that is what the Lord is all about.

 

He is about righteousness, He is not about dancing and singing is that bad? No but that is not what He is about.  He is about righteousness because righteousness brings prosperity and life and unrighteousness brings death and destruction to the individual, to the church, to the nation and to the world.

 

And the Lord Jesus wants the whole world to prosper but we are not going to prosper apart from His law and His way of thinking and His righteousness it is the only way to prosper.  So we have the beast the mind of the beast saying Jesus Christ hates everybody that will not receive Him, He hates them He is going to punish them in hell forever.  And who are you to think He has a favourite nation, all these craziness coming out of the carnal mind.

 

Let whosoever will come that is what my bible says.  Does not your bible say that?  Whosoever will let him come to the Lord, come in humility believe that He is the God who has the power to help you and come with a sacrifice in your hand.  If you come without a sacrifice He is not going to receive you and what is the sacrifice? your carnal mind on a platter you are head.  When you first come to the Lord your head is leviathan you have to cut off that head and serve it up unto the Lord on a platter and then He becomes your head, the Lord Jesus becomes your head.

 

The only reason the church is not being judged for unrighteousness yet is because the people who are righteous who are sent to judge the church have not appeared except in one or two little places.  It is called the two witness company.   The church is told it was for the heathen, it is not for the heathen it is for the church.  The whole bible is for the church.  The promises are for the church and the judgement is for the church because as the church goes the whole nation and the whole world goes. Now there are people who do not like to hear that but it is the truth. 

 

When the church is in right standing with God the whole nation prospers and the world.  You know what America has done for the world, great things, we have done great things for the world.  We have tried our best but you can only do so much for somebody who will not seek Jesus Christ for themselves.  That is why missionaries go with the word of God they also go with food and medical needs and yes they have an agenda to introduce the Lord Jesus Christ along with that mercy.  Because the mercy alone will not help the people, except maybe in an immediate help for one person here or there but the people that missionaries go to to help is not the intention of the Lord that the missionary should remain the great white fathers and the people that they are helping should be the victims.

 

When Jesus sends help to you the victim becomes the missionary that goes to other people He strengthens everything that is weak.  It is not His will that the missionary should be the great ones and the people that are weak should remain weak.  That is not what the Lord Jesus does that is not the God of the bible although that is the god of socialism, stay weak we will support you, do not work stay home we will give you money and be dependent on the state.  That is an antichrist form of government, it is an antichrist message.

 

The message of the Lord Jesus is be strengthened in me, I will equip you I will enable you to support yourself.  Look to me and I will do it.  If you are leaning on the arm of flesh, what is going to happen?  What happens when you lean on the arm of flesh? It will pierce you hand like a thorn and you will become a vessel state of dependent person upon whoever it is that you are leaning upon.

 

The only legitimate dependency is dependency on the Lord.  It is only legitimate dependency.  Well I have to qualify that, in certain relations there is a legitimate dependency, children are dependent on their parents that is legitimate.  A woman who is raising children it weakens you to have dependent children on you.  It is okay to be dependent on your husband to a certain degree, only to a certain degree. 

 

It is okay if you are on in years and you are really debilitated because you are old to be dependent on your children.  But by and large the Lord wants to strengthen you in the areas of your weakness so that He can be gloried through you.  So that it can be said look at what God did for this person. 

 

To be honest with you I do not know how I got on this message today.  But I know that it started out by talking to you about the church world not being willing to recognise first of all that there is another level of spirituality available.  They do not even recognise that so how can they recognise that a teacher is coming out of God to even train the pastors. 

 

You know now I do not really know that I have seen it in this country but I know that pastors from this country go to Africa and India and they hold conferences where they train the local pastors.  They train the local pastors in the foreign lands to pastor the people over there.  So if that happens that way that the preachers here train the preachers in the third world to minister to the people why is it so mind boggling to think that the Lord can send somebody with a higher revelation that will teach the pastors here in the United States.

 

It is not mind boggling except the pride of the pastors do not want to believe it.  We have seen this happen to some degree with the sonship message.  Bill Briton was received by a significant measure of the church population as having a high message after years of persecution he was received.

 

But I tell you that the doctrine of Christ is on the other side of the river.  What do I mean by that?  Advance doctrine or mature doctrine right through sonship is still a doctrine that can be understood by the carnal mind.  It is an understanding of the scripture that that carnal mind can still comprehend.  It is the positive side of the doctrine of Christ.  We are called to be sons of God, it is a promise. Is that not wonderful? Who would not want to be in this exalted place. And the saviour should come out from Mount Zion and we are going to set the world free.  I remember it being preached we are going to break the bondages on the peoples.  We are going to be emptying out the mental institutions and the jails and everybody is going to be converted.  So a lot of people received that message of the sons of God.

 

And I say it is still on this side of the river, what river? The river Jordan, Jordan signifies death.  Do you know that the scripture says that Jesus got into a boat and ministered to the people from a boat?  Are you familiar with those scriptures? That Jesus got into a boat, He was in the boat was in the water and He taught the people from the boat.  Brethren He was not in a physical boat. He was on the other side of the river or He was in the river anyway. He was not on the land where the people were, He was in a higher spiritual place.  The boat that he was in was Christ Jesus and He was in the wisdom.  He was in the water, He did not teach the people from the same level that they were on.  The doctrine of Christ is in the river, it is not in the same place. 

 

The doctrine of Christ is in a whole different place where in addition to receiving the glorious message that we are sons of God and that we are going to set the world free and empty out the insane asylums and the jails aside from that now we are being told well that is all true but before you do that now we have to deal with your sin nature and it has to die and it has to be replaced by the righteous nature of Christ Jesus and then you go and do it.

 

You see the Lord gives us a vision of the greatness to come before He starts ripping us apart.  If we did not have a vision, who can bear it, you can bear the exposure of our sin nature.  Who can bear facing what we really are?  I was telling somebody the other day I think it was you actually that em sorry I just lost my train of thought.

 

Who can bear having our sin nature exposed if we did not have a vision of the positive results of the exposure.  If we did not know what it was done for if we thought the exposure of our sin nature was just to condemn us who can even bear it.  We can almost not bear it even knowing that we are called to be sons of God sometimes it is almost unbearable. 

 

Oh I know what I was thinking, I was telling XXXX the other day that from the point of view of the carnal mind of this world, let us take somebody who is like a perfect person.  Now we know that there is no such thing as a perfect person but let us take the most perfect person, now you can take the most perfect person in the world that does good works their whole life has been a sacrifice.  The true test of who they really are everybody has the serpents nature okay, the serpent is good and evil.  So if you are judging people by this world, it is much better for them to be good than evil but the proof that our nature is the serpent’s nature is that when we are confronted with someone who is manifesting Christ Jesus so the evil in the serpent and the good in the serpent, people who are evil in serpent and people who are good in the serpent when confronted with Christ Jesus will try to tear them down because both the good and the evil side of people are still antichrist.

 

You see the serpent has you, Satan has you but she knows that there is going to be some good people in this world I hate to use that word course none is good except the Lord.  But from world’s point of view there are cops and there are robbers, there are bad guys and there are good guys in this world.  And there are bad guys that do not go to jail there are people who are just really mean rotten.  Do you know that there are people who are really mean rotten people in this world and they do not do anything that will put them in jail they are just mean rotten people.  So there are bad guys and good guys on every level but you take the best of the crop and you put them up against Christ Jesus who starts to reveal their motives and they are going to turn on that person.  If you have not turned on that there is something of Christ in you to be listening to this message there has to be something of Christ in you. 

 

And this is what it is all about we are called the touchstone those of us who have Christ in us we are called the touchstone with the stumbling stone is real stumbled over Jesus of Nazareth. 

 

How.. did you all know that one of his titles is the stumbling stone, did you all know that?  She probably does not know it.  One of Jesus’ title is the stumbling stone. Israel stumbled over Jesus, how did they stumble over him?  He was a revelation of the nature of God in the flesh and they could not recognise that.  They crucified Him, they stumbled over Him, they .. because they could not recognise His nature was the nature of God.  And why could they not recognise it going back to the beginning of this message, why could they not recognise it? because His nature was not something that was familiar to them. 

 

So the fact that Jesus’ true nature which was the nature of God was not familiar to them proved what? That the Pharisees were what?  Or what were they not?  They were not in Christ.  Jesus told them he said if Abraham were truly your father you would recognise me.  Abraham did not do what you do; do not tell me Abraham is your father.  Abraham will know who I am. 

 

So they had all of the trappings all of the religious works, all of the rituals, Jesus said you ... .. but they had no personal relationship with the glory of God.  Because if they did they would know that God sent Him, they would have been familiar with the spirit on Him.  Now almost everybody here has been in deliverance.  You may be familiar with term familiar spirit.  Familiar spirit in the church or even in the scripture we are told that people who have familiar spirit and wizards put them out of the land.  What they are doing is evil, it is witchcraft and they are bring a wrong spirit down into the nation. 

 

I believe they are suppose to die, a witch is supposed to be put to death, those who have a familiar spirit, well everything that is exist on one side exist on the other side.  That term familiar spirit in the scripture is talking about people that commune with the dead and with demons to get information and to get power they are seeking power from these spirits. 

 

Well Satan does not do anything original, there is such a thing as familiar spirit on the side of God.  And the familiar spirit on the side of God recognises Christ.  If you are truly of the household of God you will recognise Christ on a person.  And the church does not recognise Christ, they do not recognise his truth, they do not recognise His doctrine and they do not recognise His preachers. And this has to change and it is going to change the speed with which it is going to change is in direct proportion to the raising up of the believers who are manifesting the Christ.  And judgement will follow you everywhere. 

 

We are told in the book of Mark and these signs shall follow those who believe.  They shall take up serpents, well where is the serpent? Who said the serpents are in the heathen? They shall take up serpents and nothing by any means shall harm them.  It is the church, it is the serpent in the church, it is the leviathan it is the serpent in the church.  And the word to take up, the Greek word translated to take up means to raise up, they were going to judge the sins of the people so that they can rise up in Christ not to destroy them but leviathan has to be destroyed.

 

So that is who you are, you need to know who you are and to not got before the spirit.  Not take a message like this and go out and try to judge people out of your carnal mind.  How will you know that it is time to judge somebody when you find yourself in the middle of a situation and you did nothing to bring it to pass.  Like somebody stole your money and the person of authority will not do anything about it. Well some such situation, do not go looking for it yourself believe me as Christ matures in you trouble will find you wherever you go, situations that require righteous judgement will seek you out. 

 

The Lord will move you there you do not have to go looking for it.  It will find you. And most of the time there will not be anything for you to do except to stand in your righteous position and watch the judgement fall.  And that does not make me feel good I want you to know it is not going to make you happy to see churches shutting down.  It is not going to make you happy.

 

I have never been in a physical army but since I have been in this spiritual army I think it must really be traumatic experience to be a soldier and having to kill people and see people dying, blown apart, it used to be only men and now there is women going overseas.  I do not see how you could ever be the same.  I will never be the same.  Since the Lord brought me into this life I will never be the same. To see judgement like that follow you wherever you go.  To see the Lord tell me that man who I know is praying against me strongly the true doctrine will be vindicated. I just see the man run away with the church secretary, steal the money set for the new building, leave his wife, see his son die, the mother of his children die and the woman he ran away with crack up.  After the Lord said to me the true doctrine will be vindicated.  Did I do that?  I did not do that.  I did not do that to him.

 

So brethren this is who you are and as you continue to feed on the doctrine of Christ, if Christ continues to grow in you, if He has not already started He is going to start happening to you.  If it has started it is going to increase because it is the will of God to judge his church.  Why? so that his whole church can be a manifestation of Christ, Why? so that the whole country can prosper. Why? So that the whole world can prosper and that the beast and the mind of the beast will be stamped out, that is why. 

 

So we are all chosen to be a stumbling block, people trip over us.  What does that mean? They think evil towards us.  They look at the righteousness we are manifesting and input evil motives to us.  They look at the good that we are doing and think it is for evil reasons.  And then judgement falls on them.  They stumble over us all the time. 

 

Well I do not know where this came from today.  Does anybody have anything they want or any questions about this?  Now we will take a break.

 

That is the message, there is a false message in the church, the message in the church is a lie.  Jesus was crucified and the result was look at what happened to the world, is the benefit, the good things that happened to the world, is it perfect? Are the great works that Great Britain and America have done are they perfect?  Are these nations perfect? Is the church perfect?  Are the leaders of the church perfect?  No but look at what happened to the world.  Righteous laws are they always obeyed?  No they are violated all the time but righteous laws in Great Britain and in this country.  Are mistakes made absolutely?  But the rule of democracy the concept of it that all men are created equal before God, the hope of the world, the people turning to the right and the people who are more powerful do not oppress the weak that is what came out of His crucifixion.

 

What in the world do we have to look forward to when he appears again? And what we have to look forward to is that this holy nature will actually be imparted to men like you and to me.  The nature that heals everything, the nature that heals down syndrome, the nature that heals the rapist, the nature that heals the serial killer, the nature that heals the fearful person that is what we have to look forward to and that is the reason judgement must and will fall on the church and on the world because it is the only thing that will save our lives. And it has to fall and humanity has to be saved because we are the wife of the Lord Jesus Christ we belong to Him. 

 

We are His, the world is His, Adam fell the serpent stole the kids and this is where we are.  I know it sounds funny but it is the truth, it is the true message.  And he Lord is coming to take us back and why is it taking this long?  It is taking this long to prepare humanity for the return to our true owner without killing us because when we were kidnapped we were converted into a different kind of being. And now we cannot go home in this condition because we all have the serpent’s nature as we get close to God we will be destroyed because holiness or righteousness cannot live with unrighteousness so a plan had to be set in motion that we should come close to God without being burnt up and it is taking this long.

 

The scripture says you are not your own, you are bought with a prize.  So it is happening we are the only people in the world that believe it, remember Noah preached for a hundred and twenty years and nobody believed him.  It does not matter we are the only ones who believe it that this doctrine is of God that the judgement is coming on the church and not on the world, and we would receive a conversion of nature.  Because our true owner is coming to collect us and we are the only ones in the world who believe it is still true.  It is still true. 

 

Whoever does not believe it it does not matter you cannot change the truth because Jesus Christ is the only reality.  He is the only reality, He is the only part of humanity that is real.  Everything else is a phoney, a lie and changeable.  Jesus Christ is the only one He never changes.  He does not change therefore everything else is a lie He is the only truth.  I do not care what these eyes see, I do not care what these ears hear I do not care what is going on out there He is coming.

 

He is going to retrieve us because we are His property.  And the world as we now know it is coming to an end.  This is a world of unrighteousness it is hell and it is coming to an end.  It is going to roll up like a scroll and disappear. Thank God.  Now there is going to be a lot of blood and guts I wish it did not have to be but people are going to get hurt.  People are going to die, people are going to be sick because the world is still under the effects of this sowing and reaping judgement and every evil on this earth is merely a reflection of the evil hearts of men. 

 

The bible says evil continually, evil towards God, evil towards God’s laws, evil towards God’s righteousness, evil towards each other, evil towards ourselves we do not even know we are evil.  The bible says in the last days good will appear evil and evil will appear good.  We think we can make it without the Lord without the righteousness of God we cannot.  So our society is self deceived, the intellects, the great intellects the intelligent people, the inter.. academia the great we worship knowledge today, they are all deceived.

 

The knowledge even of itself is not a great thing.  Knowledge isolated separated from righteousness what does it do?  What is the effect it has on us? What does Paul say knowledge what? Knowledge puffeth up.  Knowledge makes you proud.  Knowledge without the fear of God makes you proud, makes you think that you are better than the person who does not have your education.

 

Everything has to come under the righteous dominion of the character of the Lord Jesus Christ or it goes hare wire.   It is good, it is good, it is good and then it goes over the line and it goes hare wire, everything in humanity needs to be controlled under the Godly control of righteousness or it goes hare wire and it becomes destructive.  What was once good becomes destructive.

 

So that is the message that the world has to hear.  There is not one person that I am aware that is preaching it on television.  Television is completely taken over, Christian television with the nonsensical prosperity message.  God wants to bless you, you just keep on in your sins you just keep on doing what you are doing, everything is fine get your blessing and go to heaven.  It is another gospel, it is a false gospel and they have captured the airwaves.  And they captured by and large the money that is in the church. 

 

The money that is in the church it is supposed to be promoting the truth of God’s word to people who do not know it.  So Satan in the preachers, Satan in the false ministries has appropriated all not all but to the degree that they have, the tithes that people who think that they are doing the right thing tithing and sending offerings to these ministries and they are supporting Satan’s message.  So it has to change however He is going to do it.  However the Lord is going to do it.  It is something beyond anything that anyone person or one ministry can do.

 

The Lord just reminded me that a scripture actually says if the crucifixion or the (I do not remember the exact words) the crucifixion of Jesus brought the whole world into a potential relationship with Jesus Christ or actually what it said is the removal the breaking off of the branches the Jews being separated from their own tree resulted in the opportunity for the whole world to have a relationship with God.  What will the regrafting of those branches into their own tree be?

 

Now I really said the same thing in the previous clip I just said is differently.  I said what will His appearance be, what will His second appearance be, we know that He came again in form of the Holy Spirit but He is about to appear by His nature.  So the grafting of the Jews back into their own tree is not necessarily talking about the natural Jews, it is talking about the true spiritual Jews that are appearing today.  Paul calls us the Israel of God.

 

Now some natural Jews are also spiritual Jews and some people who are not natural Jews are spiritual Jews.  It is who you are spiritually.  And although I do not want to talk about reincarnation very much, it is just the reality, it is the truth.  We have a whole message on it salvation by works.  Reincarnation is true but it is only, it only does you any good after your spirit is grafted to the Lord Jesus Christ then as He reveals your sins and you start behaving in a manner opposite of your sinful life style His nature is built in you and it does lend towards the ultimate salvation.

 

So reincarnation is a truth and there are spirit beings who are incarnate in Israel.  There are spiritual beings who are incarnate on the other side of the flood and the scripture says that Jesus went to preach to the ..spirits that were disobedient at the time of the flood.  It is all the same people, it is all of us were in Adam at the time that he died, in Adam all died. 

 

In Adam all died and broke up.  He broke up he was a gigantic spiritual being and he broke up into all of these pieces and a piece of him is in each of us.  So it is these pieces of the Adam who died who were disobedient on the other side of the flood, who are incarnate as natural Israel and who are incarnating today as the church.  The same spiritual beings who collectively comprise Adam who all fell. 

 

So the reason that the Lord sent me back in is that I did not to the person who did not understand me I did not quote the scripture correctly so that is why I am trying to correct this.  Paul says in the book of Romans the Jews were like branches broken off of their own tree when they did not recognise that Jesus, they did not recognise that Jesus was not a familiar spirit.  They did not have Christ in them so they could not recognise Christ in Jesus so they were broken off of their own tree.

 

The tree is a spiritual tree so the natural Jew was broken off of the spiritual tree because there spirit did not line up with the spiritual tree.  In order to be growing out of the spiritual tree you have to have the same spirit. Right?  Jesus said He put it another way or it is just the translation He said I am the vine and you are the branches and if you do not abide in me you can do nothing.  Of yourself you can do nothing your spiritual root has to be growing out of my mind.  You have to be nourished by my life on the other side not His life from the visible world from His spiritual life that existed in another world.

 

If your spirit is grafted into His spiritual vine and that is the word of the New Testament rather than tree, at least of the translation okay, you have the power that is in the vine you have the power of the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ if your spirit is grafted into His vine.  And if your spirit is not grafted into His vine He says you can do nothing.  But what are you talking about Sheila, so and so are successful made all that money, successful in life, graduated college, was a great inventor did not do anything that will endure beyond this world, did not do anything that will be carried over into the world to come.

 

So the Jews were broken off of their own tree when their spirit refused to recognise, was it a judgement cause they were bad? no their spirit did not resonate, did not vibrate, was not .... sorry I am using big words if you do not understand raise your hand.  Their spirit did not resonate with His spirit, their spirit did not recognise His spirit, so because their spirit did not recognise His spirit their spirit did not join with His spirit and when their spirit did not join with His spirit they withdrew from the tree.  Does anybody need to ask me a question?

 

You see in this world we establish relationships whereby we are close to people physically very largely physically.  I have a good feeling towards you I hug you, I kiss you, I am close to you, we go out we do things together, carnal people, the way spirit are close is that they are of like mind.  You see that is what is happening in the world today, the whole world is being changed and the Lord has told us that the relationships we have in Christ Jesus are stronger than the relationships of our blood relatives.  Now of course we should still honour our blood relatives but there is a conflict as you all know that your natural family most of you anyway has some form of opposition to closeness it establishes that is established in the ministry that is close to Christ Jesus because we are of like mind and the relationships of people who are of like mind war against the carnality of the people who you are close to because of like flesh or like blood.  There is another family coming forth in your life that is not acceptable to the carnal mind. 

 

So because their spirit did not resonate with Jesus’ spirit they disconnected from the tree of life.  You see they should have recognised Him, the bible says they gave him up, does anybody know? They gave Him up why? Because of envy, they gave Him up because of envy.  Now how could the Pharisees have envied Him if they did not know who He was.  So they knew who He was, they knew who He was but they deny who He was and when they deny who He was their carnal mind came to the surface and at some point they probably believe their own delusion. 

 

They believe their own lie, they gave Him up for envy.   So they chose Barabbas over Jesus.  They chose their carnal mind over what every relationship they had with the Lord was telling them and they separated from the tree of life.  It is the same thing that happened when the woman in the garden believe the serpent she separated from the tree of life. 

 

So the Jews and it does not say the Jews anyway in the book of Romans, it does not say the Jews it says Israel.  Now remember Israel means two different things there is the completed Israel and the separated Israel.  The separated Israel is the Israel that separated from Judah and it is just ten tribes, they are the separated from Israel just the just ten tribes.  Then there is the completed Israel which is the whole twelve tribes.  So the scripture did not say the Jews will be grafted back in it says Israel will be grafted back in.   And I believe it is talking about the completed Israel.  But the Israel is spiritual Paul says it is the Israel of God because the covenant of the flesh is not applying anymore. 

 

You are not the anointed of God because you are a physical baby born of a Jewish mother and a Jewish father that is not the case.  You are the Israel of God when you are an incarnation of a part of Adam that broke off.  You are the Israel of God when you are the true Israel.  The scripture says Israel is my son this day I have called my son out of Egypt Israel is the son of God, Adam is the son of God.  So whoever is an incarnation of a piece of all the pieces that Adam broke into is Israel.

 

So the Israel of God, you see Paul said Israel will be grafted back into his own tree.  It is the true spiritual son of God, Adam who is separated from the tree of life (of course he believed the serpent) will be grafted into the tree of life.  It is a complicated subject I have a lot of tapes on it I cannot do the whole thing now but it is the truth, it is just the truth.  It is who we are spiritually and how is it defined who we are spiritually.  We are defined, what defines us spiritually is the tree that we are grafted into.  Are you grafted into the tree of life which is righteous or are you grafted into the tree of good and evil.

 

Now being grafted into the tree of good and evil that is no crime because that is where we are all coming from but if you know it you can tell the Lord or ask the Lord tell Him that you reject that tree of good and evil and you desire righteousness.  You desire to be right in every argument or do you desire to be righteous in every argument.  Do you want to be right even if it is ungodly to be right? Or do you want to be righteous, to be righteous you have to humble yourself and live in the truth.

 

So it is Israel that is going to be grafted back into the tree, not Israel after the flesh you see, the Israel of God.  I hope I straightened that out.  Well I think that there is something else, I do not know what it is just bear with me for a second.

 

Well I guess just this, I turned on the history channel the other night and it was a science program it was a clip it was a video of outer space.  All of these rocks just floating around in space, rocks, I mean like a lot of rocks, like if you can navigate through out of space you can really get hurt bumping into these rocks.  And I said Lord where are all these rocks coming from?  And what came to my mind was that Jesus is the rock.

 

Now Jesus is the last Adam, Adam is the rock, the rock of God.  Moses lost his opportunity to enter into the promised land because he hit the rock instead of talking to it.  Moses was raising up God’s people and he did not talk to them in a manner that will cause them to repent and grow, but he hit them they were the rock. He hit them, he hit the rock, he hit God’s people instead of ministering to them in Christ.

 

So all these asteroids floating around in outer space they are the physical materialisation of the reality of all the pieces that Adam the rock broke into.  The whole material world is merely a reflection we are on the other side of the mirror.  This is a mirror this world is a mirror revealing what is happening in the invisible spiritual world.  That is what all those rocks are doing in outer space. 

 

But the Lord will put humpty dumpty together again.  Humpty Dumpty could not put himself back together again.  All the benefits of this world, all the kings horses and all the kings men, all the brilliance of the carnal mind even under the anointing of the Holy Spirit could not put Humpty Dumpty back together again.  They are cloning and they are doing stem cell research and they are doing all of their stuff and they cannot create life but the Lord Jesus Christ will put humpty dumpty back together again why? Because He Himself the Lord Jesus is the head of the body.  He is the beginning of the creation of God the head of the body.  The head of all power and principality and who are the powers and the principalities? Us.

 

That is who we are we are Satan in this world. And that is why we are sick and that is why we die and that is why we hurt each other whether we mean to do it or not.  We are the offspring of the serpent and the female aspect of Adam and Satan dwells in our minds.  She dwells in the carnal mind.  So Jesus He is the head of all power and principality. He is our boss whether you know it or not, whether I know it or not whether the church knows it or not, whether the world knows it or not and in due season the truth will be revealed when He brings to pass the will of God in the earth He will be revealed.  He is the head of all power and principality and we are those powers and principalities.  The witchcraft comes out of our minds. It is the truth.

 

So somehow this message is going to get out, I do not know how long it is going to take.  I do not know how it is going to happen but it is going to get out and it is going to come to pass because it is the truth.  And as I spoke to you about that goat that destroyed that ram, well this ram is going to destroy that goat not me not you but Christ Jesus, He is going to destroy the image this world and the goat that is trying to turn this country into the image that is in the mind of the goat.

 

And it is happening but it will only go so far just like the building of the tower of Babel it is coming down because there is a God that rules in the heavenlies.  He rules in the heavenlies and He rules over the everyday nitty gritty affairs of men.  No matter how many do not believe it. He is involved in the smallest in fraction in the lives of His people.  And He is responsible, the Lord Jesus Chris is responsible to bring this world and humanity at large into the image of the living God and He is incapable of failure.

 

It will happen, however, whenever, it must and it will happen and those who believe it and flow with Him will be a part because humanity is divided, people on both sides of the river and unfortunately the majority of the church is on the carnal side of the river.  So we read in the scripture and the Lord Jesus He is coming back with tens and thousands of His saints on clouds you know.  He is coming back for His church to judge their sins and bring them over to the life side of the river.  And from the minute He appears and you see He is already appearing not in His fullness but He is already appearing.  The warfare is wherever He is appearing. Jesus clearly said I came with a sword you think I came to bring peace.  I did not come to bring peace I came with a sword to separate you all from leviathan and from Satan’s grip.

 

So as soon as He appears in His fullness, the human population will be in two camps either you are part of the body of Christ or you are not and carrying a bible and a bumper sticker does not make you a part of the body of Christ.  The mind that lives through you determines which vine you are grafted to.  That is what is coming and it is not pleasant but the end of it will be full restoration to righteousness which means no sin, no disease, no destruction every need met.  What is life going to be like?  I do not know but every need will be met and the whole world will be at peace.

 

The scripture said peace in all my holy mountain, it is the truth.  The lion will lie down with the lamb.  What does that mean? No more warfare between your Christ mind and your carnal mind.  Everybody, every man will do the right thing always.  Do you know that before King Saul was initiated as king, the bible says that in those days there was no king because the Lord was internalised in all of the people and everyone was under the law of God that was internalised in them.  There was no need for a king, Jehovah was the king of Israel I am talking about Israel, Jehovah was king.  He ruled a Spirit, God ruled over His people and as the people departed from Him and the relationship weakened they desired a human king and they desired that human king to the point that Jehovah gave it to them to their destruction and to our destruction today. But that is the plan Christ in you the hope of glory. 

 

Every man to be ruled under the anointing of God but it is not that way now.  Judge yourself and you will not need to be judged but we cannot.  We need someone helping us to teach us righteousness.  We are not capable of judging ourselves, if we were capable of it, there will be no problems in our lives and we all problems in our lives we are not there yet we have not arrived yet but that is the plan that will surely be fulfilled in His time.

 

So this is the issue when He fully appears when He stands up in full stature, however that is going to happen, we will either be on His side or not on His side.  But even if you are on His side it is going to be a warfare, the war is raging now every time are sent you will find yourself in a conflict because someone’s carnal mind is manifesting it is continuous conflict.  The more mature Christ is in you the more conflict you have, it is continuous conflict because there is so much work to do but it will come to an end at some point.  The world will be I am sorry the word is eluding, pacified, the world will be pacified.

 

Remember this world is our example look at what is happening in Iraq.  Do you know that Bagdad is 99% pacified?  Do you know that there has not been any except for one or two isolated shots that the warfare in Bagdad has stopped there is no more civil war in Bagdad.  Did you know that?  Alcaeda has been chased out of Bagdad.  Praise God.

 

I want to tell you that after we went into Iraq, I saw things turning into this bloody war that has been going on for all of these years it really upset me.  I have to tell you it upset me so much that for I think for almost a whole year I stopped watching the political programs because I thought we were just going to go there and win.  And the Lord told me that that was naive of me but I could not deal with it I am not being perfectly honest with you.  I could not deal with it to the point that I stopped watching the political programs and then I started again about a year ago and I understand that this a criminal world and that this world is hell and that battles are not won instantly there has to be a warfare and especially battles for righteousness.

 

Sometimes they are very close and it looks like the people on God’s side are not even going to win.  You see there are people who still say today the president Bush’s at least his first term was illegal.  It was not illegal.  The constitution of the United States says that the Electoral College elects the president not the popular vote.  He would have been wrong; he will have been given up the authority that was given to him according to the United States constitution if he turned the presidency over to the man who won the popular votes, that will have been wrong.

 

He had to fight it was the right thing to do, I do not know and I did not speak to the man personally but from a position of righteousness, pride aside why will you give up something that was legally yours? Because the fight was so close, you are not supposed to do that.  So just spread a rumour about this man to ignorant people who believe it that he stole the election is outrageous, it is not true. 

 

Everything is a battle in God. Everything we get we have to fight for and sometimes it can look like we are losing the battle that does not mean that the Lord’s righteousness is not in it.  Am I happy that young people are getting killed? I think it is horrible, it is absolutely horrible.  Do I believe in what is being done over there? Yes. Do I believe mistakes were made? Absolutely.  A lot of mistakes were made. Is the principle wrong? I do not think so.  That is just my opinion.  What is the principle? What is President Bush doing over there? Does any of you know? It is called nation building.  That is the official name and the mentality behind it is this that the Middle East at least Iraq was run by this tyrant that was threatening the rest of the world.  He was sanctioned by the United Nations multiple times and was not in all afraid of the United Nations just kept on doing whatever he wanted to do. 

 

This is exactly what I told you about earlier on national, on an international level President Bush went into Iraq with legal ground to do it.  And alcaeda was operating out of that nation and he went in with this principle I am going to take down the tyrant and we are going to build democracy in that nation because where there is democracy there follows financial prosperity and where there is financial prosperity the people are not willing to strap explosives on themselves and blow themselves up.  That is the theory.

 

So if you turn on the television and you hear some self exalted politician or ignorant Hollywood star telling you President Bush is wrong that is what they are talking about.  That is what they are talking about that that is not the solution to the problem for you democracy to impoverish areas is not the solution to the problem.

 

I want to tell you that there is a war that goes on, on and off between India and Pakistan over Kashmir do you know that at one point not too long ago India wanted to start a full scale war over this issue and the people (India is a democracy in case you do not know) the people rose up and protested.  India is a democracy the people it is growing there is still a lot of poverty there but it is growing.  A lot of more and more people being educated getting better jobs they did not want a war.  They wanted to work and get their television sets like we do here in the west.  And there was such an uprising in the people it stopped.

 

Now I do not really know the issues over Kashmir I just know that they are feuding over whether Pakistan or India owns it.  So this was the plan it is called nation building and now we have to all of these years it looks like it is beginning to concede but the warfare went on for years, thousands of people killed and it looks as it is coming to pass.  They are calling it the grassroots movement, it is not the politicians forcing it on the people, the two types of Muslims the Sunis and the Shites  are coming together and saying I do not want to fight anymore let us build this nation that is what is happening and they call it grassroots it is coming from the people.  It is not a government imposed thing.

 

So, I am telling you that everything God does is a war and that I have been very naive in the past saying that because it is righteous it is just going to, I am going to blink my eyes and it is just going to come to pass, absolutely not.  The exact opposite is the truth, we have to fight for everything we get from Him.  You want to be healed you have to fight for it.  You want to be making more money you have to fight for it.  You have to find out what He wants you to do and fight for it because everything that can is going to come against you.

 

You see when God gives you something nobody can take it away from you.  If a doctor heals you, you can get sick again.  If God heals you now there are different kinds of healing but if He is healing you from your root like He is healing me, nobody can take this away from me.  If God prospers you financially nobody can take it away from you.  No matter what the conditions of the world are there are always people that still have money.  There are always people that are okay and if God has prospered you you will be one of those people. 

 

In the great depression there were people that make millions, Satan’s people.  You have to get your prosperity from the Lord and then nobody can take it away from you.  You have to fight for everything, Satan will convince you that it will never happen.  Satan will convince you to go out and do it in your own strength.  Satan will fight with you tooth and nail to not do it God’s way because the ways of God look foolish to man.

 

Namon travelled all the way from Syria to Israel to get healed from leprosy or in the hopes of getting healed from leprosy and he made it to Elisha’s house and was so insulted by the prophesy all you have to do is go and get wet in the river Jordan he was so insulted he almost went back to Syria without his healing.  But he had to overcome his pride because Elisha did not even walk out of his house and say hello to him.  He sent his servant out and he said how dare you treat me like that, well do you want the healing or do you not?

 

Do you want the healing or do you want me to acknowledge how great you are in this world.  What did you come here for? If you came for the healing, go dump in the stupid river, which he did and he got healed.  What do you want? do you want your pride satisfied or do you want to overcome death? What do you want?   You cannot have both, you cannot have both. 

 

When truth becomes more important to you than your pride then you are on the right path.  You cannot have both.  It does not matter how spiritual you are, how much knowledge you have , how much money you have, all of that stuff is nice.  I like knowledge, I like things spiritual, I like having money but it cannot be number one in your life.  When your life is sold out to God and you are on the path and it is time for you to receive those things that is fine, that cannot be number one in your life. If you want to get them from God they cannot be number one in your life. 

 

So anyway brethren this meeting is just going on and on and on, okay I am going to try to give you your break again.  Anybody wants to say anything before we stop again?  Well, it is hot this morning it is nice when it is hot right?  It is a good thing when it is hot, all kinds of things are happening in the spirit when the Lord is hot. Believe Him for your healings ask, just put your needs before Him.  The spirit is moving.  I will just take a minute, everybody pray for what you want.  Just ask Him for what you need to meet your need.  This is why it is so important to be in church you never know when an anointing like this is going to fall.

 

The Lord just reminded me that the scripture actually says if the crucifixion or the I do not remember the exact words the crucifixion of Jesus brought the whole world into a potential relationship with Jesus Christ actually what it says is the removal, the breaking off of the branches the Jews being separated from their own tree resulted in the opportunity for the whole world to have a relationship with God, what will the regrafting of those branches into their own tree be. 

 

I really said the same thing in the previous clip I just said it differently.  I said what will His appearance be? What will His second appearance be? We know that He came again in the form of the Holy Spirit but He is about to appear by His nature. 

 

So the grafting of the Jews back into their own tree is not necessary talking about the natural Jew.  It is talking about the true spiritual Jews that are appearing today.  Paul calls us the Israel of God.  Now some natural Jews are also spiritual Jews and some people who are not natural Jews are spiritual Jews.  It is who you are spiritually.  And although I do not want to take about reincarnation very much it is just the reality, it is the truth.  We have a whole message on it, salvation by works. 

 

Reincarnation is true but it only does you any good after your spirit is grafted to the Lord Jesus Christ.   Then as He reveals your sins and you start behaving in a manner the opposite of your sinful life style His nature is built in you and it does lean towards the ultimate salvation. So reincarnation is a truth and there are spiritual beings who are incarnate in Israel.  There are spiritual beings who are incarnate on the other side of the flood and the scripture says that Jesus went and preached to the hurtful spirits that were disobedient at the time of the flood it is all the same people.  It is all of us who are in Adam at the time that he died.  In Adam all died, in Adam all died and broke up, he broke up, he was a gigantic spiritual being and he broke up into all of these pieces and a piece of him is in each of us.

 

So it is these pieces of the Adam who died who was disobedient on the other side of the flood who were incarnate as natural Israel and who are incarnating today as the church the same spiritual beings who collectively comprise Adam who fell.  So the reason the Lord sent me back in is that I did not to the person who did not understand me I did not quote the scripture so that is what I am trying to correct this. 

 

Paul says in the book of Romans the Jews were like branches broken off of their own tree when they did not recognise that Jesus they did not have it was not a familiar spirit.  They did not have Christ in them so they could not recognise Christ in Jesus so they were broken off of their own tree.  The tree is a spiritual tree.

 

The natural Jew was broken off of the spiritual tree because their spirit did not line up with the spiritual tree.  In order to be growing out of the spiritual tree you have to have the same spirit right?  Jesus said He put it in another way or it is just the translation He said I am the vine and ye are the branches and if you do not abide in me you can do nothing.  Of yourself you can do nothing.  You spiritual root has to be growing out of my mind.  You have to be nourished by my life on the other side, not His life from the visible world from His spiritual life that existed in other world.

 

If your spirit is grafted into His spiritual vine (and that is the word of the New Testament rather than tree at least of the translation) you have the power of the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ if your spirit is grafted into his vine.  And if your spirit is not grafted into His vine He says you can do nothing.  What are you talking about Sheila?  So and so were successful made all that money successful in life, graduated college, was a great inventor, did not do anything that will endure beyond this world, did not do anything that will be carried over into the world to come.

 

So the Jews were broken off of their own tree when their spirit refused to recognise was it a different because they were bad?  No their spirit did not resonate did not vibrate was not copacetic with sorry I use big words if you do not know what I am talking about raise your hand.  There spirit did not resonate with His Spirit.  Their spirit did not recognise His Spirit.  So because their spirit did not recognise His Spirit their spirit did not join with His Spirit and when their spirit did not join with His Spirit they withdrew from the tree.  Does anybody need to ask me a question?

 

You see in this world we establish relationships whereby we are close to people physically very largely physically.  I have a good feeling towards you, I hug you, I kiss you I am close to you.  We go out we do things together, carnal people here, the way spirits are close is that they are of like mind.  You see that is what is happening in the world today.  The whole world is being changed and the Lord has told us that the relationships we have in Christ Jesus are stronger than the relationships of our blood relatives. 

 

Now of course we are to still honour our blood relatives but there is a conflict as you all know that your natural family and most of you anyway have some form of opposition to the closeness that establishes that is established in a ministry that close to Christ Jesus because we are of like mind.  And the relationships of people who are of like mind war against the carnality of the people who you are close to because of like flesh or like blood.  There is another family coming forth in your life that is not acceptable to the carnal mind.

 

So because their spirit did not resonate with Jesus’ Spirit they disconnected from the tree of life.  You see they should have recognised Him.  The bible says they gave Him up, does anybody know? They gave Him up why because of what?

 

COMMENT: Envy

 

PASTOR VITALE: Because of envy.  They gave him up because of envy.  Now how could the Pharisees have envied Him if they did not know who He was.  So they knew who he was you see.  They knew who He was but they denied who He was.  And when they denied who He was the carnal mind came to the surface and at some point they probably believed their own delusion.  They believed their own lie. 

 

They gave him up for envy, so they chose Barabbas over Jesus.  They chose their carnal mind over what every relationship they had with the Lord was telling them and they separated from the tree of life.  It is the same thing that happened when the woman in the garden believed the serpent she separated from the tree of life.

 

So the Jews and it does not say the Jews anywhere in the book of Romans it does not say the Jews, it says Israel.  Now remember Israel means two different things there is the completed Israel and the separated Israel.  The separated Israel is the Israel that is separated from Judah and it is just ten tribes, they are the separated Israel, just the ten tribes.  Then there is the completed Israel which is the whole twelve tribes.  So scripture does not say that the Jews will be grafted back in, it says Israel will be grafted back in.  And I believe it is talking about the completed Israel.

 

But the Israel is spiritual, Paul says it is the Israel of God because the cabinet of the flesh is not applying anymore.  You are not the anointed of God because you are a physical baby born of a Jewish mother and a Jewish father that is not the case.  You are the Israel of God when you are an incarnation of a part of Adam that broke off.  You are the Israel of God when you are the true Israel.

 

The scripture says Israel is my son this day I have called my son out of Egypt, Israel is the son of God.  Adam is the son of God.  So whoever is an incarnation of a piece of all the pieces that Adam broke into is Israel.  So the Israel of God you see Paul says Israel will be grafted back into his own tree.  It is the true spiritual son of God, Adam who was separated from the tree of life because he believed the serpent will be grafted back into the tree of life.  It is a complicated subject, I have lots of tapes on it I cannot do the whole thing now but it is the truth.

 

It is just the truth, it is who we are spiritually and how is it defined who we are spiritually? We are defined what defines us spiritually is the tree that we are grafted into. Are you grafted into the tree of life which is righteous? Or are you grafted into the tree of good and evil?  Now if you are grafted into the tree of good and evil that is no crime because that is where we are all coming from but if you know it you can tell the Lord of ask the Lord, tell Him that you reject that tree of good and evil and you desire righteousness.  You desire to be right in every argument or do you desire to be righteous in every argument.  Do you want to be right even if it is ungodly to be right? Or do you want to be righteous.  To be righteous you have to humble yourself and live in the truth.

 

So it is Israel that is going to be grafted back into the tree not Israel after the flesh the Israel of God.  I hope I straitened that out I think there is something else I do not know what it is, just bear with me for a second, I am supposed to say something else.  Well I guess just this I turned on the history channel the other night and it was a science program and that was a clip it was a video of outer space. 

 

And all of these rocks just floating around in space, rocks like a lot of rocks like if can navigate through outer space you can really get hurt bumping into these rocks.  And I said Lord where are all these rocks coming from?  And what came to my mind was that Jesus is the rock.  Now Jesus is the last Adam, Adam is the rock the rock of God.  Moses lost his opportunity to enter into the promised land because he hit the rock instead of talking to it.  Moses was raising up God’s people and he did not talk to them in a manner that will cause them to repent and grow.  But he hit them they were the rock he hit the rock he hit God’s people, instead of ministering to them in Christ. 

 

So all these asteroids floating around in outer space they are the physical materialisation of the royalty of all the pieces that Adam the rock broke into.  The whole material world is merely a reflection.  We are on the other side of the mirror.  This is a mirror, this world is a mirror revealing what is happening in the invisible spiritual world, that is what all those rocks is doing in outer space. 

 

But the Lord will put humpty, dumpty back together again.  Humpty Dumpty could not put himself back together again, all the benefits of this world, all the kings horses and all the kings men, all the brilliance of the carnal mind even under the anointing of the Holy Spirit could not put Humpty Dumpty back together again.  They are cloning and they are doing stem cell research and they are doing all of their stuff and they cannot create life.  But the Lord Jesus Christ will put Humpty Dumpty together again why? Because he Himself the Lord Jesus is the head of the body, He is the beginning of the creation of God, the head of the body, the head of all power and principality.  And who are the powers and the principalities? Us. 

 

That is who we are we are Satan in this world.  And that is why we are sick and that is why we die and that is why we hurt each other whether we mean to do it or not.  We are the offspring of the serpent and the female aspect of Adam and Satan dwells in our minds.  She dwells in the carnal mind.

 

So Jesus, He is the head of all power and principality, He is our boss whether you know it or not, whether I know it or not, whether the church knows it or not, whether the world knows it or not and in due season the truth will be revealed when He brings to pass the will of God in the earth, it will be revealed that He is the head of all power and principality and we are those powers and principalities.  

 

The witchcraft comes out of our minds.  It is the truth.  So somehow this message is going to get out.  I do not know how long it is going to take, I do not know how it is going to happen but it is going to get out and it is going to come to pass because it is the truth.  And as I spoke to you about that goat that destroyed that ram well this ram is going to destroy that goat, not me not you but Christ Jesus.  He is going to destroy the image this world and the goats trying to turn this country into the image that is in the mind of the goat.  And it is happening but it will only go so far.

 

It is like the building of the tower of Babel it is coming down because there is a God that rules in the heavenlies and He rules in the heavenlies and He rules over the everyday nitty gritty affairs of men.  No matter how many do not believe it, He is involved in smallest in fraction in the lives of His people and He is responsible.  The Lord Jesus Christ is responsible to bring this world and humanity at large into the image of the living God and He is incapable of failure.  It will happen, however, whenever it must and it will happen.  And those who believe it and flow with Him will be a part because humanity is divided, people on both sides of the river and unfortunately the majority of the church is on the carnal side of the river.

 

So we read in the scripture and the Lord Jesus, He is coming back with tens and thousands of His saints on clouds you know.  He is coming back for His church to judge their sins and bring them over to the life side of the river.  And from the minute He appears and you see He is already appearing not in His fullness but He is already appearing the warfare is wherever He is appearing. 

 

Jesus clearly said I came with sword, you think I came to bring peace? He said I did not come to bring peace I came with a sword to separate you all from leviathan and from Satan’s grip.  So as soon as He appears in His fullness the human population will be in two camps either you are part of the body of Christ or you are not.  And carrying a bible and a bumper sticker does not make you a part of the body of Christ.  The mind that lives through you determines which vine you are grafted to.

 

That is what is coming.  And it is not pleasant but the end of it will be full restoration to righteousness which means no sin and no disease, no destruction, every need met, what is life going to be like? I do not know. But every need will be met and the whole world will be at peace.  The scripture says there will be peace in all my holy mountain, it is the truth.  The lion will lie down with the lamb what does that mean no more warfare between your Christ mind and your carnal mind.  Everybody, every man will do the right thing always.

 

Do you know that before King Saul was initiated this came.  The bible says in those days there was no king because the Lord was internalised in all of the people and everyone was under the law of God that was internalised in them.  There was no need for a king, Jehovah was the King of Israel, I am talking about Israel.  Jehovah was King, He ruled as Spirit.  God ruled over His people and as the people departed from Him and the relationship weakened they desired a human king and they desired that human king to the point that Jehovah gave it to them to their destruction and to our destruction today.  That is the plan Christ in you the hope of glory every man to be ruled under the anointing of God.  But it is not that way now judge yourself and you will not need to be judged but we cannot we need someone helping us to teach us righteousness.

 

We are not capable of judging ourselves.  If we were capable of it there will be no problems in our live and we all have problems in our lives.  We are not there yet we have not arrived yet but that is the plan that will surely be fulfilled in His time.  So this is the issue when He fully appears when He stands up in full stature however that is going to happen we will either be on His side or not on His side.  But even if you are on His side it is going to be a warfare.  The war is raging now, every time you are sent you find yourself in a conflict because someone’s carnal mind is manifesting it is continuous conflict.

 

The more mature Christ is in you the more conflict you have.  It is continuous conflict because there is so much work to do.  But it will come to an end at some point the world will be I am sorry the word is elusive pacified.  The world will be pacified.  Remember this world is our example, but what is happening in Iraq.  Do you know that Bagdad is like ninety nine percent pacified?  Do you know that there has not been any except for one or two isolated shots that the warfare in Bagdad has stopped?  There is no more civil war in Bagdad.  Did you know that?

 

Alcaeda has been chased out of Bagdad.  Praise God.  I want to tell you that after we went into Iraq and I saw things turning into this bloody war that has been going on for all of these years, it really upset me.  I have to tell you that it upset me so much that for I think almost a whole year I stopped watching the political programs because I thought we were just going to go in there and win.

 

And that Lord told me that that was naive of me, but I could not do it and I am perfectly honest with you I could not deal with it to the point that I stopped watching the political programs and then I started again about a year ago.  And I understand that this is a criminal world and that this world is hell and that battles are not won instantly there has to be a warfare and especially battles for righteousness.  Sometimes they are very close and it looks like that people on God’s side are not even going to win.

 

You see there are people who still say today that President Bush’s first term was illegal.  It was not illegal the constitution of the United States says that the electoral college elects the president not the popular vote.  He would have been wrong, he would have been given up the authority that was given to him according to the United States constitution if he turned the presidency over to the man who won the popular vote.  That will have been wrong, he had to fight it was the right thing to do.  I do not know I did not speak to the man personal but from a position of righteousness pride aside, why would you give up something that was legally yours because the fight was so close. You are not suppose to do that.

 

So to spread a rumour about this man to ignorant people who believe it that he stole the election that is outrageous it is not true.  Everything is a battle in God, everything we get we have to fight for and sometimes it can look like we are losing the battle that does not mean the Lord’s righteousness is not in it.  Am I happy that young people are getting killed? I think it is horrible.  I think it is absolutely horrible.  Do I believe what has been done over there? Yes.  Do I believe mistakes were made absolutely.  A lot of mistakes were made.  Is the principle wrong?  I do not think so.  That is just my opinion. 

 

What is the principle? What does President Bush doing over there does any of you know?  It is called nation building that is the official name and the mentality behind it is this: that the Middle East at least Iraq was run by this tyrant that was threatening the rest of the world.  He was sanctioned by the United Nations multiple times and was not at all afraid of the United Nations just kept on doing whatever he wanted to do.  And this is exactly what I told about earlier on a national on an international level President Bush went into Iraq was legal ground to do it.  And alcaeda was operating out of that nation.  And he went in with this principle I am going to take down the tyrant and we are going to build democracy in that nation. 

 

Because where there is democracy there follows financial prosperity and where there is financial prosperity the people are not willing to strap explosives on themselves and blow themselves up.  That is the theory.  So if you turn on the television and you hear some self exalted politician or ignorant Hollywood star telling you President Bush is wrong that is what they are talking about.  That is what they are talking about that that is not the solution to the problem bringing democracy to impoverish areas is not the solution to the problem. 

 

I want to tell you that there is a war that goes on and off between India and Pakistan over Kashmir.  Do you know that at one point not too long ago India wanted to start a full scale war over this issue and the people (India is a democracy in case you do not know) the people rose up and protested.  India is a democracy, the people it is growing they are still a lot of poverty there but it is growing.  A lot of more and more people being educated getting better jobs they did not want a war they want to work and get their television sets like we do here in the West and there was such an uprising in the people it stopped.  Now I do not really know the issues over Kashmir I just know that they are feuding over whether Pakistan or India owns it.

 

So this is what this was the plan it is called nation building and now we have to all of these years it looks like it is beginning to come together but the warfare went on for years, thousands of people killed and it looks like it is coming to pass. They are calling it a grass roots movement it is not the politicians forcing it on the people.  The two types of Muslims Sunis and the Shites are coming together and saying I do not want to fight anymore let us build this nation that is what is happening and they call it grass root.  It is coming from the people.  It is not a government imposed thing.

 

I am telling you that everything God does is a war and I have been very naive in the past saying that because it is righteous I am just going to blink my eye and it is going to come to pass.  Absolutely not , the exact opposite is the truth we have to fight for everything we get from Him.  You want to be healed you have to fight for it.  You want to be making more money you have to fight for it.  You have to find out what He wants you to do and fight for it because everything that can is going to come against you. 

 

You see when God gives you something nobody can take it away from you.  If a doctor heals you you can get sick again.  If God heals you now there is different kinds of healing but if he is healing you from your root like He is healing me nobody can take this away from me.  If God prospers you financially nobody can take it away from you no matter what the conditions of the world are there are always people who still have money, there are always people that are okay.  And if God has prospered you you will be one of those people. 

 

In the great depression there were people that made millions Satan’s people.   You have to get your prosperity from the Lord and then nobody can take it away from you.  You have to fight for everything Satan will convince you it will never happen so he will convince you to go out and do it in your own strength.  Satan will fight with you tooth and nail to not do it God’s ways because that ways of God look foolish to man.

 

Neman travelled all the way from Syria to Israel to get healed from leprosy or in the hopes of getting healed from leprosy and he made it to Elisha’s house and was so insulted that the prophets said all you have to do is go and get wet in the river Jordan he was so insulted he almost went back to Syria without his healing.  But he had to overcome his pride because Elisha did not even walk out of the house and say hello to him.  He sent his servant out and he was saying how dare you treat me like that.  Well do you want the healing or do you not? Do you want the healing or do you want me to acknowledge how great you are in this world.  What did you come here for?  If you came here for the healing, go dump in the stupid river, which he did and he got healed.

 

What do you want? Do you want your pride satisfied or do you want to overcome death.  What do you want? You cannot have both.  You cannot have both.  You cannot have both, when truth becomes more important to you than your pride, then you are on the right path.  You cannot have both.

 

It does not matter how spiritual you are, how much knowledge you have, how much money you have, all that stuff is nice, I like knowledge, I like being spiritual I like having money but it cannot be number one in your life.  When your life is sold out to God and you are on the path and it is time for you to receive those things that is fine that cannot be number one in your life.  If you want to get them from God they cannot be number one in your life.

 

Any way brethren this meeting is just going on and on and on okay I am going to try to give you your break again.  Anybody want to say anything before we stop again.  Well it is hot this morning that is nice when it is hot right, it is a good thing when it is hot.  All kinds of things are happening in the spirit when the Lord is hot, believe Him for your healing just put your needs before Him the spirit is moving.  I will just take a minute everybody just pray the way you want.  Just ask Him for what you need to meet your need.

 

This is why it is so important to be in church you never know when an anointing like this is going to fall. 

 

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DA 02/08/11

 

 

 

 


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