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Praise the Lord. This message is a further message about Pastor Manning, and my response to him. The Lord has told me that the genesis of the name ATLAH is that it is really saying Atlas without being obvious. Pastor Manning’s vision is a vision of ATLAH.
My understanding when I first heard this was that ATLAH was the new name of the geographical location called Harlem. It was signifying the revitalization of this area, and it included with it the revitalization of the black community of that area. It was to be made an example of what God can do in renewing people and renewing lives.
This name ATLAH is now been expanded into a concept of world dominion according to Pastor Manning’s preaching which we will listen to in future meetings, because we only have an hour left today. He has extended this name ATLAH. From the way he describes it, it is the dominion of Christ Jesus. He is referring to it as an international concept of a renewed earth under his leadership.
Lord willing, we will analyze two half-hour messages of his, in which, personally, I think it is a slip when he actually uses the pronoun I, that when he comes into his power, he will be the leader of this one-world government under him.
I believe the powers and principalities manifesting through him have increased in strength. I told you before we started running the message, that I was having some anxiety over preaching this message, but I was not sure why. As the message started to roll, and after I drew the drawing on the board, the Lord told me that the anxiety that I am feeling is the anxiety of the other side. The battle has become really serious.
I have told you many times that when the Lord fights, the first thing He does is exposes the enemy, so we now know what we are up against.
I knew several months ago that Pastor Manning has a spirit guide, and then the Lord came to me and told me several weeks ago, that it is more than one spirit, that there is a community of spirits living through him.
Today, this is the message I got for you at three o’ clock this morning. The Lord woke me up, and this is the message that He gave me. He said, ATLAH is really Atlas. Atlas is a character in Greek Mythology. He is one of the Titans, and he is always depicted as holding a globe on his shoulder. Atlas holds the world on his shoulders.
I have put on the board for you a part of the Scripture, Isaiah 9:6, which I could read the whole thing to you, I just did not want to put it on the board.
Isaiah 9:6 – 7. 6 . For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
7. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.(KJV)
That means the Lord of Hosts will bring this to past. The Lord of Hosts is the name that signifies the war like characteristics of Jehovah. Jehovah has many characteristics. He nourishes and brings up children, and He is also the God of War, the Righteous God of war. His name is the Lord of Hosts when He is fighting a war.
Let me remind you that anti-Christ does not mean, against Christ. It means, in place of Christ. We see anti-Christ rising up continuously to replace Christ.
We just got back from a ministry trip out of state, and anti-Christ manifested in a man. We read about this in the New Testament, where Elymas the sorcerer stands between the Apostle and the deputy who was prepared to receive the message that would convert him. Anti-Christ is in place of and stands between Christ and the people He is reaching for.
We see that Atlas, if you could look this up on the Internet or any reference book, is shown with the world on his shoulder. We see that Christ Jesus is the one who would shoulder the world. Atlas was ultimately turned into stone with the head of the Medusa, a female demon, whose hair consisted of living serpents.
Hair signifies spirit. Stone signifies the most spiritual decent into the most solid form. Mortal man has a stony heart according to the Scripture.
Ezekiel 36:26 says, Jehovah speaking. 26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. (KJV)
We see that Atlas incarnated today, is appearing as a mortal man. Atlas is the Greek name. There is nothing new under the sun. The Greek gods, the Roman gods, the foundational characters of the Scripture, are all the same, because our world has a truth, a spiritual foundational truth.
Different cultures have expressed that truth in different ways, most frequently mixed with error. Truth mixed with error. Even in the Church we have truth mixed with error, because we cannot see into antiquity and find out what exactly happened.
The bottom line is, there was a creation made. His name was Adam, and there was a fall. The fall was much more complicated than to say that Adam just fell. There were offspring of Adam who were evil. Each culture has its own mythology concerning what happened.
Most instances the mythology that comes out of the carnal mind has the roles reversed. It has Jehovah as the evil one and the evil ones as the good one. That is one of the characteristics of spiritual philosophy that comes out of the carnal mind. That is why it is so dangerous for someone in their carnal mind to be learning spiritual philosophy, because the roles of good and evil are completely reversed.
It is just like we see that situation in humanity, where we could be up against an evil person who is trying to harm us. It is obvious to any rational person that, that person is trying to harm us. In the mind of the demented person they are righteous, and the person who is the victim is the evil one. There is nothing new under the sun. Emotional problems, and the mental problems seen in humanity today existed in our forefathers. We are fallen adam, and we have fallen. The people today, have fallen very far.
There was a time when fallen adam was much more powerful and intelligent than we are today, because as the years went by, as the generations went by, the descendants of fallen adam fell more and more.
Do not be deceived, because we have all of these modern conveniences, and science, and all of these things. Spiritually, we are extremely fallen. Jesus said that we are in outer darkness, we exist in outer darkness. True spiritual life is in our innermost point, and we are living on the outside, very far away from the true source of life which is the center of our being.
I only have known about Pastor Manning for about five years, but I think that he has been preaching ATLAH for a lot longer than that. I do not know how long. His testimony is that one day the Lord told him that He was giving a new name to Harlem, and that the name was ATLAH.
At the time, Pastor Manning did not know what ATLAH meant. Subsequent to that, his spirit guide told him (today I do not believe it was the Lord), that the letters that spell the word ATLAH mean all the land anointed holy. However, today, the Lord tells me that ATLAH means ATLAS, and that the spirit guide, and the community of spirit guides that are propelling Pastor Manning, are these very same spiritual beings that appeared in antiquity in Greek mythology under the name Atlas.
I do not think we are going to take the time and go into the whole story of who Atlas is. I would like to show you his genealogy in relation to the Scripture. I have told those of you who have studied with me over the years (this goes back a few years) that there were powerful, ancient immortals who were incarnating again in this generation.
I also told you that the Hebrew prophets were incarnating again in this generation, because generation is the time that the final conflict over who will rule humanity will take place. This final conflict is taking place in our day. Of course, we know that the Lord Jesus will win, but the enemy does not know that the Lord Jesus will win.
All of the heroes of the other side of yesteryear are incarnating. We see that in Tennessee, for example, where a model city that looks like ancient Greece, and even includes a replica of the Parthenon, has been built. We see that the ancient gods are rising. All you have to do is look at the behavior of the society. If you know what you are looking at, you can see it.
In my research of Atlas I came across a very brief statement that Jupiter appeared with a shower of gold to a Greek Goddess called Danae. A window opened and a shower of gold appeared. It started raining gold.
Today, we see ministers carrying what is called, the gold dust anointing. The truth will set you free. It is really important that we study history and other spiritual disciplines, because there are actually Christians who believe that, this gold dust anointing comes from God.
There was actual gold dust appearing, out of where? Out of an unclean spiritual realm that was manifesting in the room where the person with that anointing was preaching. What anointing? He had to be manifesting the spirit of Jupiter, whatever that is, or some ungodly spirit.
There are people who attended these meetings who had the fillings in their teeth turn to gold. The gold was analyzed, and it was a fine quality gold. Gold is appearing in Christian meetings. I want to tell you, and I have told you this before, Satan, the unconscious part of the carnal mind, is laughing at the Church, it is a disgrace. The ignorance and the immaturity in the Church is a disgrace to the Name of our God.
This is what is happening. Let me give you a little more back up. When Jehovah sent Moses to Pharaoh, the result of that conflict was not just that Israel escaped from Egypt. The long term result was that Egyptian mystery religion was bought down and replaced by monotheism. Of course, it is Islamic monotheism. They went from worshiping many gods and the dead, in particular, to a monotheistic religion that is really based on the Old Testament.
Moses brought down the mystery religion of Egypt. Babylonian mystery religion was also crushed, and the people turned to Islam also. This is the final conflict. The mystery religion of Egypt was awesome. They built the pyramids, they had awesome spiritual power, but it was witchcraft power.
I call what is happening now, the punch back, if you can hear this. Spiritual battles can transcend multiple generations. Jehovah, through Moses, brought down Egyptian mystery religion. Jesus, when He appeared on the face of the earth, brought down the mystery religion of Greece. Paul was sent to Greece and brought down the mystery religion of Greece, Athena the worship of Diana, all of this paganism, and human sacrifice.
Moses brought down the mystery religion of Egypt. Paul and the apostles basically brought down the mystery religion that existed in Europe at the time. Christianity wiped out the Wiccan religion in England. All of these were punches. If you can think of two people in a ring having a prize fight.
All of these events were punches by Jehovah, and now it is 2000 years since Jesus was resurrected, and the mystery religion of Greece was brought down, and the mystery religion of Ephesus was brought down. Diana was in Ephesus. All of these sites that the apostles went to, they brought down the mystery religion. Now, two thousand years later, the gods and goddesses of antiquity are punching back.
Remember, one day to God is like a thousand years to man. These spiritual entities exist in higher spiritual planes. This is only the third day. They have gotten up off the floor of the ring, and they are punching back. They are incarnating in human beings, and they are incarnating in human beings who know exactly what is going on.
I was behind a car yesterday that had bumper stickers on it that was obvious to me that it was promoting Wiccan. Witchcraft is rising in the nation, and every form of abomination that was practiced by these religions is resurfacing.
As far as I know, we do not see child sacrifice yet, but that is because of in this country it is illegal; although, it may be going with thousands of children missing every year. They are never found, and it is not just Satanism that is doing that. It is these pagan religions that practice the worship of these gods, Ashtoreth, Moloch, and they receive child sacrifices, human child sacrifices.
It is rising, it is like a cancer that begins on the inside of you, and you do not see it. You do not know that it is happening, and you do not see it until all of a sudden you have a big eruption on the surface of your body.
Sometimes you do not even see that. I know of someone who was the receptionist at my chiropractor’s office. She was not feeling well. She was not feeling well, and there was no sign of anything wrong. She went to the doctor, and found out that she had late-stage cancer. She died six months later.
There is a cancer rising up in this nation and within the individual people of the nation. There is an outright push to restore the old religion and paganism. That can only be done by the destruction of Christianity. You cannot have both. Christianity will not live in peace with paganism. This is the reality of what is happening.
I was preaching this years ago, but today we actually see a man standing up who is the reincarnation of Atlas and his whole community. What does this mean? It means that he is the first one that I know of, anyway, that has a public forum who is rising into full stature. This is the Resurrection of Damnation.
John said that there would be two resurrections; there would be a Resurrection of Damnation and a Resurrection unto Life. I have been preaching this all of these years.
The Resurrection of Damnation is the ascent of your carnal mind. The Resurrection unto Life is the ascent of Christ. I have been preaching that for years, but to see it happen in a man, that is a whole different ball game. We are looking at the ascent of the man of the principalities of old.
I do not think he is in full stature. If I said that earlier, I have changed my mind, because he does not have supernatural powers yet. He has grown in strength these past couple of weeks, and the Lord’s response to that is to expose him. That is the Lord’s response.
The battle is in the heavenlies. We no longer have physical battles as natural Israel did. The battle is in the heavenlies. The beginning of it is exposure. What comes next, I am not sure, but my experience with the Lord is that He exposes the enemy, and then that is usually followed by a confrontation, and the Lord wins.
I have only seen this series of events happen with Christians. There is a problem with Christians so the problem is exposed, and people repent, and everything straightens out. Although, we did have one conflict here where the person had to be put out of the ministry. The person was put out of the ministry, and the problem stopped.
I have never seen anything like this or had to deal with anything like this, some one standing in a public forum preaching with the most passionate preaching, gathering together unto himself so many black Christians who will be carried away by his preaching and teaching.
This is all new for me, but the battle is raging, and that was the anxiety I was feeling. The enemy knows they have been seen. Everybody okay with that?
We are going to take some time today I would like to show you Atlas’ genealogy in the Scripture. Greek Mythology says that a second race, I do not know if that is the correct word or not, but a second group of spiritual giants called the Olympians rebelled against the Titans, which were the spiritual elders, and prevailed.
I want to suggest to you that the Olympians were the descendants of Abel that arose into the world. I am going to show you that in a Scripture. The drawing on the board says that the Titans are a race of god-like giants who were considered to be the personifications of the forces of nature. We have been preaching here for years that Satan, the unconscious part of the carnal mind, is Mother Nature. Nature does arise out of the Serpent.
They are twelve children, six sons and six daughters of Gaea and Uranus. Gaea is, according to the references I found on the Internet, the earth goddess. Let me read this to you. The Titan, also known as the elder gods, ruled before the Olympians overthrew them. The ruler of the Titans, Cronus, was dethroned by his son, Zeus. I will tell you this. Most of the Titans fought against Cronus and against Zeus and were punished by being banished to. Tartarus is in the Scripture.
As usual, I did not have enough time to research to the extent that I would have liked, because the Lord gave me this message at the last minute. However, I know that the place, Tartarus, is in the New Testament. I believe that there are three Greek words that are all translated Hell. Tartarus is the place called purgatory, the holding tank where you exist in torment, waiting for your judgment.
Of course, in this world we have people in each of the three different dimensions of Hell. The people who are in Tartarus are the people who are just enjoying this existence; life is good for some people. The judgment has not come to them yet.
As we mentioned earlier, it may have been off the recording, the Lord scourges every Son that He calls unto Himself. When the Lord says, It is your time to draw near to Me, He reveals sin in you, the judgment falls, and you can prepare to have a relationship with the Holy God.
There are people in this world who are under judgment because they are coming closer. The purifying judgment, not the judgment unto destruction, (which is the sowing and reaping judgment which is unto destruction) but the White Throne Judgment which purifies us and equips us to draw near to God. Then there are people who are just living this life, which is the majority of the people who are just waiting their turn, because the Lord is calling humanity unto Himself, each man in his own order.
We see these Greek gods were thrown into Tartarus. At the moment, I do not know what that means to us, but the message for today is that the descendants of Cain are rising in our society in this year, 2006, in this generation, it is happening today.
Satan, the unconscious part of the carnal mind, always gets there first. We are the Sons of God, everybody here, and those who study with us have the hope of rising into full stature. I have not preached this in a long time. When we rise into full stature, yes we will be healing sick and delivering the oppressed, but we will also be at war with Cain’s descendants, because we are the descendants of Abel rising again.
Cain is still trying to kills us, brethren. Cain is still trying to kill us, and put us under her ground. Actually, she is female.
This is very significant. According to Greek mythology, they had twelve children, six sons and six daughters. I will show you that in the Scripture. I will show you that these were the descendants of Cain. Of course, those of you might be thinking that after Cain killed Abel, we know that Adam knew his wife again, and the Lord gave her another seed which is Seth. Seth is the resurrected Abel, but that is not the message today.
This message is about the reincarnation of Cain and Cain’s descendants, the battle of the ages. There is nothing new under the sun. Cain killed Abel, Jehovah rebuked him, and Jehovah in all of these thousands of years.... weather you want to believe it is six thousand literal years, or you want to believe it is billions of years, that is not even concerning me right now.
Jehovah raised Abel from the dead or is raising Abel from the dead. Those are Ezekiel’s bones. Jehovah said to the prophet, Will these bones live again? These are the bones of Adam’s dead body, and Abel is the root system of Adam. Jehovah is raising adam from the dead, and He is raising Abel (which is the root system of adam) from the dead. Once Abel is raised from the dead, adam can be raised from the dead, and they are fighting over us.
Who is going to possess mortal humanity, who are we going to be? It is time for mortal humanity to be permanently formed. Will we be formed in the image of the serpent permanently with no chance of change? It would truly be eternal torment forever, and ever, or will we be formed in the image of the Lord Jesus Christ?
We know the Lord Jesus is going to win, but everything He wins, He wins with a fight. Those fights perfect us, those fights make us stronger, and those fights build our faith. The type of this is David and Goliath. We do not look very strong compared to Pastor Manning, who is manifesting a very high degree of anti-Christ, and he is getting stronger every couple of weeks.
Like I said before we turned on the recording, I do not know how this is going to play out; there is a lot that I do not know. Will the powers and principalities catapult him onto the world stage? It is a possibility. The Lord has told us, at least for now, that the battle will not be fought in this world, not at this time.
At this time, the battle is being fought in a high spiritual realm, and this message is exposing the powers and principalities manifesting through Pastor Manning to whoever the Lord would have them exposed to.
This is hard to believe, but as we preach this and the words go forth into the spiritual plane, just for a round number, God could have 100 people out there that He wants to have this information, and it will just come to them as they pray, because no words fall to the ground.
Our words never fall to the ground, they just fly around in the spirit for all time. That is why we have to be careful about the evil words we say to people, because they become curses, and they just fly around. They become living things that if we make a mistake, and we say some bad things to some people because we have a bad moment, in Christ Jesus we can break the curses but damage is done.
We all have to live with that fact that we are all murderers. That is the whole thing. We are all murderers.
We have the nature of the Serpent. Just this very preaching is going out in the spirit, and there can be 100 people out there, maybe people praying about Pastor Manning and what is going on, and they can hear what is going on here right now, if the Lord wills to open their ears next week or next month.
They can get this message. They may not hear me praying; although, if they are high enough in the spirit they can actually hear my words and recognize my voice. The thoughts, when I am preaching, is forming thought-forms, and they are going forth. The people who are of a pure heart, who want to know what is going on with Pastor Manning will draw down unto themselves this information that is being preached today. That is one of the mysteries of the spirit.
Gaea is the earth goddess. That is what I wrote down for you. She is the beginning, she is the earth goddess, and mythology says she mated with her son to produce the other Titans. I suggest to you that the earth goddess is the Serpent, who is the conscious earth, as taught by the Doctrine of Christ. The Serpent mated, not with her son, but with the Son, Adam, the Son of God, and she produced the next generation of spiritual beings.
Cain was born first and produced offspring, Genesis 5:16 through 26. I suggest to you that Cain’s descendants are the same as the Greek Titans.
I am suggesting to you that these Titans, as Greek mythology calls them, are the same beings as the descendants of Cain. We have all read these Scriptures so many times, that Cain produced offspring, but what we need to understand is there has been a devolution. Not an evolution but a devolution.
We have not ascended from ape-like creatures, but we are the result of the descent from spiritually superior, gigantic beings. Not evolution, devolution. We are not ascending, we are descending. The beings that existed at the beginning of time were very powerful. That is how the pyramids were built in Egypt. These were the descendants of Ham, but Ham produced Nimrod and Cush, who were powerful in witchcraft. They were not manifesting the power of God.
This is one of the major errors in what Pastor Manning is teaching here. He stands up there and says, My father Ham, my father Ham, we are being restored to the power of my father, Ham. Jehovah brought down the power of Ham at the Tower of Babel. It was witchcraft, and it would be witchcraft to see it resurrected again.
Try to understand that what I am telling you is these powers and principalities preaching through Pastor Manning are preaching the resurrection of the witchcraft power that existed in mystery Egypt, in ancient Egypt.
They are the same beings that were incarnate in Egypt when Egypt was at the height of the manifestation of witchcraft. They are the same beings. Do you hear this? When he is standing up there, saying, My father Ham, my father Ham, he is literally speaking into existence the resurrection of these spiritual giants that appeared on the earth in antiquity.
The seeds of these giants are in human beings that exist today. More than that, they are being seeded into the human beings who listen to and believe Pastor Manning.
Jesus said, My words are Spirit and they are Life. Jesus said, My words are seed, and you are all seeded by the foolishness of preaching. When you believe it, the seeds of resurrection land on your mind.
With Pastor Manning standing there with his intense emotions and passion saying over and over again, My father Ham, my father Ham, he is seeding the heart of the people that believe him with the disembodied spirits of the giants that lived in the days of Ham. They are incarnating through the seeds that come out of Pastor Manning’s mouth.
If you cannot understand that, think about Jesus incarnating, think about Jesus rising in all of the people of the Body of Christ. That is your example. The Scripture says, Where ever the man is, there is the woman, where ever the woman is, there is the man and this is how it will be until this war is settled.
Where ever Christ is, there is anti-Christ. Where ever Abel is, there is Cain. Where Adam is, there is Leviathan. They are in there together until, once and for all, everyone comes under the dominion of the Lord Jesus Christ, and He offers the creation up to the Father, and that is the end of the physical world completely. We read about that in the Book of Corinthians, we see this account in the Scripture in Genesis 4, Verses 16 through 26:
16. And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
18. And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech.
19. And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.
20. And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle.
That is the generation in which the descendants of Cain incarnated in the flesh. He was the father of such as dwell in tents. These physical bodies are the skins or tents for spiritual life and such as have cattle, and such as have the animal nature.
21. And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ.
22. And Zillah, she also bare Tubal-cain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tuba-lcain was Naamah.
23. And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.
24. If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.
25. And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.
26. And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD. (KJV)
Seth is the resurrection of Abel. Although I am probably not going to pursue it in this series, I believe the descendants of Seth are the Olympians (the other beings that lived on the other side of the flood, who were also supernatural beings). They were the offspring of Seth, the resurrected or reincarnated Abel. All of these beings, both the descendants of Cain and the descendants of Abel, began in the spirit.
They came into existence in a high place of the spirit, and as they descended, at some point, they appeared in the flesh. When they first appeared in the flesh, they were giants, giants living in the Egypt of antiquity. The magnitude of their enormous physical size was directly related to their massive spiritual strength. The fact that human beings are so small today compared to the giants of yesteryear, shows how spiritually powerless we are.
I have on the board Drawing #3, showing you on the left the names of the twelve Titans six females and six males. On the right, I show you the descendants of Cain, six males and six females. I have to go over that again. Like I said, I really did not have time to work this up properly. If I have to bring a correction on Part 2, I will do that.
To finish up the message I just want to briefly go over these Scriptures and show you some points of Genesis 4, Verse 16 through 26. Basically, Verse 23 and 24 I want to go over with you.
23. And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah..........
Next week, I hope to have for you the meanings for all of these names, because names always mean something in Scripture.
......Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.
He is telling his wives and his children that they are cursed, and he is telling them why. Of course, hear my voice and hear my speech are two different words. Voice is what comes out of our mouths, and speech is the true intent of our heart.
When we communicate telepathically, which we should be able to do in Christ Jesus, some people can communicate telepathically, and we hear the speech of the person’s heart. Sometimes the person’s voice says something different then the speech of their heart.
When you are a Son of God we do not judge by what people say. We judge by what is in their heart. It is a problem if the people do not know what is in their heart, or if the person does not know what is in their heart, it is a problem. That is the difference between speech and voice.
Verse 24. This is Lamech telling his offspring and his wife.
24. If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.
That translation sounds to me that if Cain is being defended, he is being avenged. I do not think that is what it is saying.
Going back to Verse 23.
23. And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.
This is a declaration, a confession. It is not repentance, it is confession. I have slain a man to my wounding and a young man to my hurt. What did Lamech do? He did not do anything, Cain did something.
Here we see the spiritual principal of not only the judgment being on our children unto the third and fourth generation, but for those of us that are mature enough to handle this, we really are being told that our children are just a reincarnation of ourselves.
When we were taught in Old Order deliverance that we have to break curses back ten generations, one hundred generations, the truth of that matter is that we are the same person in multiple incarnations. That is why Jehovah is righteously visiting the sins of the father unto the children. If the children were brand new souls and completely innocent, would that not be a hard-hearted God to punish innocent children for something that they never did?
The truth of the matter is, it is the same soul that is stretched out from generation to generation in our children, and that the human spirit (Jesus called it the worm that dieth not) is appearing and will appear over and over again, each time in a new personality, until the Lord Jesus puts an end to the abomination called reincarnation.
1 Peter 3:19-20:
19. By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
20. Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. KJV
The Scripture does not say anything about hell, or after the resurrection. The Scripture says, Jesus preached to the spirits that were in prison because they were disobedient on the other side of the flood -- and we are those spirits!
Those of us who are spiritual today are the spirits who existed on the other side of the flood who were called back from incarnation in he earth because of disobedience. This means that they were abusing the privilege of incarnation.
Jesus came down into this world to preach to us. He did not go to Hell, this is Hell. He came here! We are the spirits that were disobedient on the other side of the flood.
This message is not for the faint-hearted. The truth is going to set us free, but it is not for the faint-hearted. If our children are suffering, it is because they are the reincarnation of us! A part of us, our soul, reincarnates in our children while we are still in existence. Our spirit reincarnates after we die to this world.
I do not have the exact details on this, so please do not hold me to this. This is the best that I can tell you now. Our soul is given to our children, then when we pass out of this world they are what is left of us. It is like the Serpent shedding its skin. We reproduce ourselves before we die, and then when we die, we continue to exist in this world in another form - -our children.
I know when the first group of Living Epistles first started to thin out, and it looked like it was shutting down, I asked the Lord what was happening and what was going on, and what would happen in the future. He said to me, You will rise again in another form. Then the second group came in. This believers here today are the third group.
The initial Living Epistles, the people who made up that group, no longer exist, but Living Epistles Ministries still exists. The spiritual root of Living Epistles Ministries which is the Lord Jesus and Christ, is just wearing a different garment today.
This is the third group, and you look different than the first group. However, it is still Living Epistles Ministries, because our spiritual foundation is here. This is true about us as people.
I know I have told you this before, but I will repeat it again for this message. Jehovah did not create a creation that was intended to die. Jehovah does not want us to die, the Lord Jesus does not want us to die, and the Serpent does not want us to die. It is not the will of the Serpent that we die.
The whole problem is that the Serpent who has founded this formation of the Holy Substance, cannot keep us alive. When Adam was first created, he was joined in unison to Jehovah, so He had an unending source of energy that kept Him alive.
When Adam sinned and was separated from Jehovah, the creation fell into a sack which is this universe. The scientists will tell you this whole universe is just a sack. We exist inside of it. Actually, it is a fetal sack, and we are in utero. The Creation is in utero, but that is another message.
We fell into this sack, and the umbilical cord to the Father was cut off. All that we have is the energy that is in the universe; therefore, it has to be recycled. We do not have enough energy to exist eternally, so we die and we are recycled. That is not the will of God, and it is not the will of the Serpent. The body deteriorates, and the soul deteriorates, because there is not enough energy to keep them alive.
That part of us which is immortal, our spirit.... Jesus says, You have a worm that dieth not. Our spirit migrates from generation to generation because our skin dies.
When Jehovah found Adam after the transgression, the Scripture says, Adam and his wife were naked. They were naked, so Jehovah made them skins. We are the skins. Jehovah is so high, the creation was so high at that time, that we are skins that have consciousness and have existence. The skins alone die, but that part of us which is eternal, which is the true creation of God, goes on from skin to skin (Job 2:4).
Did you know that the skin of our body is renewed every seven years? Every seven years, if you had a way to test it by putting it under a microscope, you would have completely new skin. The Serpent sheds its skin, and the eagle sheds its feathers. The spiritual Serpent which we are the offspring of, sheds us, sheds the skins, sheds the personalities and sheds the physical bodies of this mankind.
We are the skins. We are what the Lord wants to save. Our soul is being saved, that which is being destroyed from generation to generation, because there is not enough energy in this sack to keep it alive. That is why it is taking so long for the Lord to deliver us from Hell, because we keep dying, then we are born again as babies, and we have to start learning all over again.
We see that Lamech is confessing the sins of his ancestor, Cain, but he is confessing it as his own sin, because he knows that he is Cain. Just as we are fallen adam, we are adam that sinned and died. That is who we are. This is why we have all the problems we have. We are reaping what adam sowed, and it is fair, and it is just.
Jehovah is righteous, because we are Him. We are adam. Grow up time. You have a terrible life? What did you do? I do not know? I do not know what I did that I was dying at ten years old, but it must have been pretty bad to be dying at ten years old.
Personally, I think that I was very spiritually high, and I must have been manifesting witchcraft or idolatry. Maybe I was an idol worshiper. I do not know. I had to do something to justify a death of a ten year old in this life. In this existence (it is not really life).
Lamech is confessing to his wives that he slew a man to his wounding and a young man to his hurt. What does that mean? The Hebrew word translated slain, the root of that word means to split. We see here the evidence that Cain killed Abel, and they split. They are symbiotic twins, Cain and Abel, they are not supposed to be separated.
Sometimes we have someone who is born as a twin, and they carry the soul of that twin sibling with them, or sometimes they carry genetic material of that twin with them. That is the example of Cain, he carried something of Abel with him that was convicting him, but he was split. They were supposed to be two, but they were just one.
The wound that he received was the wound that killed him, because he thought he was so smart. I am not going to get into why Cain killed Abel right now. He thought he was going to get away with killing his brother, and he died also, because they are symbiotic twins. You cannot kill Able and live, because Abel was, at least before the death of Abel, Abel was the mediator between Cain and Jehovah. It is the same thing as saying you cannot kill Christ Jesus and live.
Pastor Manning is killing Christ Jesus; he is completely denying Christ Jesus and lifting up his father, Ham. He names the Name of the Lord Jesus but you can say Jesus all day and all night, but it does not mean anything if His Son is not in you. If you are worshiping Ham and giving all the glory to Ham, it does not matter that you say, Jesus is God.
Those are just words. Cain and all of his descendants died, because they killed Abel. Cain killed the mediator, the connecting factor between themselves and immortality, and all provision.
That is what is so serious about an anti-Christ spirit that denies Christ Jesus, that denies Christ in you, that denies Christ in the flesh. That message is killing the only source of connection to the eternal source of Life.
What is Pastor Manning doing? He is seeding his people with the Canaanites. He is seeding these people with the spiritual child who is cut off from Jehovah, and there is no life in that. There is only death in that. He said, I slain a man to my wounding, and that Hebrew word translated man means immortal man. He did not kill Adam, he killed Abel who was immortal.
He also killed a young man to his hurt. That is very interesting, because that term young man usually means Christ. Christ in you is the young man in you. Personality wise, we are all female, the young man in you is Christ. The Hebrew word translated young man means fruit, and we know that Christ is the fruit.
He says he killed Abel, his connection to the immortality of Jehovah. He also killed the fruit that was designated to come forth, that would be the help that was needed, the help that Adam needed. That is Christ. The word to my hurt, the Hebrew word translated to my hurt means black and blue. What does black and blue suggest? Anybody know?
Black and blue suggests the sowing and reaping judgment. The Scripture says in the book of Proverbs, Do not be afraid to hit your children. Do not be afraid if you raise a black and blue mark on them, because you are going to save their life. Better they have a black and blue behind than be in jail.
We see that Lamech recognizes that he is under the correction of the Lord. He is being beaten by the Lord. This whole world with all the terrible things that happen here is Jehovah’s righteous judgment. He could have just wiped us out and started from scratch. He decided to correct us and save us, but we are suffering pretty severely, because of our ancestor’s sin.
Verse 24 says,
24. If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.
I do not know how to explain that to you besides showing you some Kabalistic principles.
COMMENT: I was surprised to see Enoch up there on the board under the Canaanites.
PASTOR VITALE: Yes, that is a message of hope that there is a remnant. The Lord always saves a tenth. There is a Scripture, I think it is in the Book of Isaiah that says that, If the Lord did not have a tenth of us, we would have been fully and completely destroyed.
Jesus’ background is the harlot. This is the hope of all of us, that Jesus in His physical genealogy had a prostitute as one of His ancestors. The Lord is saving all of us no matter how wicked we are. He is saving our root.
I do not want anyone to think I am preaching Ultimate Reconciliation. For those of us who, in this day and hour, are being saved by the Lord Jesus Christ, it does not matter if we have any kind of sin in our background, He is saving us anyway. That is a powerful statement that Jesus Himself had a prostitute as an ancestor.
Out of Cain’s line, Cain was a murderer. He murdered his brother and did damage to all of his descendants and is still doing damage. We are a mixture. Everybody that exists on the earth is a mixture, and we do have the righteous seed in us, but He is born dead. When Jesus comes, He can raise our spiritual potential (which is Abel) from the dead. Abel is adam’s root system. There is hope for everybody.
That was the message of Enoch. Enoch was raptured, but we do not know what that rapture was like, because those beings were not in animal bodies. We just know that God took Enoch without his dying. God took Moses without his dying. What the Scripture says is that Moses was dead. That was told unto Joshua that as far as Joshua was concerned, Moses was dead.
We see Moses, very much alive, talking to Jesus. Moses died to this world, but Moses was taken up without dying. Elijah was taken up without dying. Enoch was taken up without experiencing death. Did I answer your question?
COMMENT: I have not seen it in a while now, because I cannot see very well, but some of the ancestors of Cain were similar to Abel.
PASTOR VITALE: What do you mean?
COMMENT: Like the name Masula, there is another name that was so similar.
PASTOR VITALE: Oh yes. They were symbiotic twins so that is not surprising. The only difference between Cain and Abel is they cannot be separated, so the only difference between Cain and Abel is which one is on top. When Cain is on top of Abel, they have another name. It is called the Fiery Serpent. When Abel is on top of Cain, they have another name called Christ, but they are very similar. That is a very accurate observation.
I will show you briefly this avenged sevenfold, and avenged seventy times. If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold. I have to give you a Kabbalistic principal, because there is no other way to show you this. Lamech is saying....
First of all, who is doing the avenging? Vengeance is a King James translation of a work that suggests the Jehovah’s Sowing and Reaping Judgment, but Jehovah is not a vengeful God as human beings are vengeful. Everything that Gods does towards us is motivated by His love. The vengeance He is taking, He is taking against sin. Even against sin, everything that He does is motivated by love, so vengeance is not a good word, but that is the word that is used in the King James.
The vengeance, Lamech is acknowledging that Cain came under the sowing and reaping judgment on all seven levels of consciousness. Remember that Adam, before the fall, was conscious in all worlds, and He was conscious on all seven levels of consciousness. I cannot go into that right now because that is a CCK message. I am just going to leave you with that, that there were seven levels of consciousness.
Adam, Cain, and Abel were conscious on all seven levels of consciousness. Vengeance was taken, judgment fell on all levels of consciousness. What kind of judgment fell? Death. Adam died to the upper six levels of consciousness and so did Cain, then fell down into this physical worlds where we have.... I am not talking about here, I am talking about the average person.
We have the emotions of the animal world, we are all mammals and our intellect is limited to the seven levels or the seven sub-levels of intellect available in each world.
Cain was avenged by dying to six levels of consciousness, and Lamech was avenged on the seventh. Lamech is saying, Cain has reproduced himself and several generations have come to pass. Lamech is the one that brought forth human beings in the flesh. Let me repeat the verse that we read that in.
19. And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.
20. And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle.
This is the generation in which Cain’s descendants came into the flesh. These descendants that came into the flesh lost all consciousness on the upper six levels. In Lamech’s time, because Lamech took wives and bear children, the line went forward.
This seventh level is the visible world Lamech found himself and his descendants existing in the seventh world. There are ten levels of consciousness, ten levels of sub-consciousness in each world. People, who are carnal, people in this world especially in the west who exist on this surface, their world is they eat, they sleep they have sex, they have babies, and they enjoy the things of the flesh.
Is there anything wrong with that? No, but that is where they are. They do sports, it is all physical, very little intellect. There are nine other spiritual levels that people can ascend to.
We have people that are in witchcraft, but they are very high. They have all kinds of spiritual experiences, but it is illegal. It is witchcraft. In Christ Jesus we have the potential to ascend to all these ten levels that are available to this world alone. There are strings attached with spiritual ascension in Jesus Christ. You have to give up your sin nature, or the Lord is not taking you up.
There are ten levels of consciousness that people experience illegally in this world. Lamech is saying, I am being avenged, or the vengeance of the Sowing and Reaping judgment has not just caused me to die to the upper six levels of consciousness but has caused me to die to the ten spiritual dimensions of spirituality in this present world. I have become what I just described.
Again, I am not putting anybody down. This is the reality. He became a human being, and his descendants became beings that lived only in the outer world. They lived only for the flesh. Is that not the condition of the world pretty much before the Industrial Revolution? People spent their whole lives.
Even after the Industrial Revolution, my mother-in-law would tell me how she would wake up in the morning to manually sew her children’s clothes. Women cooked and washed clothes, had their own gardens and prepared food. Men worked in the fields. They would work 15 hours a day, and they would have sex and sleep.
I do not mean to put all of that down that is this life. Work, the family, the flesh of the body, who had time to pursue an intellectual path or a spiritual path? You were spending all your time trying to survive. It was worse before the Industrial Revolution.
Can you image? I could not imagine waking up in the morning and having to walk a half a mile to the well to draw the water, to grind the wheat to bake the bread. I could not image it. No one had any time to pursue a spiritual or an intellectual life, except a few prevailed people in the world.
That is what Lamech is talking about. Cain lost access to the six upper levels of consciousness, but Cain was still spiritual in this last world. Lamech said, Me and my descendants, even lost the spirituality of this world. That is the vengeance that it is talked about.
I have a theory that I would not tell you that the Lord told it to me, but I believe that the cavemen that we found remains of are the descendants of Cain’s line. I believe that these spiritual beings, that these Titans that are reincarnating again today, that they drew so much energy from the beings that they inhabited that they just descended, they devolved. Not evolution, devolution.
They devolved. The physical manifestations just developed until they became cavemen. That is my theory anyway. Maybe in this Scripture that it says such and such, that they became those who lived in tents, maybe from the very first physical being in this world, maybe they were cavemen.
Even if they were cavemen from the start, they were spiritual beings that devolved from this very high spiritual place. When they finally appeared in the physical world they appeared as cavemen.
We are the descendant of Seth, which is the resurrected Adam. We are not the descendants of Cain. The physical descendants of Cain were wiped out, especially if they were the cavemen, they were wiped out. Remember, the more spiritual you are, the more energy you take from the person you inhabit.
Did you ever see a movie of the occult where a spirit inhabits somebody? They get sick. When people are possessed, they get sick, and they die because the spirit is taking their energy. These powerful spiritual beings had physical bodies, whatever they looked like, and they were killing the bodies they were living in.
Is that any different then what is happening today? Brethren, people on the other side of the flood lived five, six, seven, eight, nine hundred years. We are dying young, because we are fallen.
These Titans are incarnating again. What do you think that they are going to do to the people who they are born again in? The people will die. I do not know exactly how it works, I do not know when, or how long, or where. They are mighty spiritual beings. They take the energy of the people that they are born in.
When Christ Jesus is born in us He gives us energy, and we hope for immortality. That is the vengeance of Cain and Lamech.
Are there any questions before we close? Lord willing, next week we are going to go over these same verses, and I am going to look up the meanings of the words. I have two more episodes of Pastor Manning that we will watch, and I will comment on. God Bless.
COMMENT: I was just thinking of the similarities we talked about Danae, the Greek Mythology, the gold dust sprinkling from her hands. The same thing happened to xxxx only it was the gold rosary beads flowing down. In Florida, they have the church, Mary Queen of the Universe. You always see her standing on the globe, and the snakes all around it, and the halo on her head. You know how I always twist the words around, and one of the words up there looked like Satan, the unconscious part of the carnal mind.
PASTOR VITALE: It is no secret that Mary is the head of the Church and that she really is the female goddess, the Serpent manifesting through a Christian religion.
COMMENT: Like pagan gods?
PASTOR VITALE: Yes. In the movie, The Mists of Avalon, which talks about the Wiccan religion being wiped out by Christianity, it shows you that the goddess, the head of the Wiccan religion, took up a new residence in Roman Catholicism. It is right there in the movie. A lot of people know about it, except a lot of the practitioners of Roman Catholicism do not know it. They do not have any idea of the truth of it.
COMMENT: It is so interesting the Muslims hold Mary in regard too.
PASTOR VITALE: I did not know that. Someone just said the Muslims hold Mary in regard too. This world has a queen. The world that exists in this universe has a queen, and that queen takes many names of female deities.
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